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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:19, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Tsamma juice

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  • ... that Tsamma juice is named after the mother of all melons? Source: "Tsamma (named after a melon grown in Africa that is thought to be the parent of all melons we know today)" [1] "The name Tsamma is the same as a hearty melon grown in the Kalahari desert of Southern Africa" [2]
    • ALT1:... that Tsamma juice mixes well with every drink on the planet? Source: "The dangerous thing about Tsamma is that there's not an alcohol on the planet that doesn't mix well with it" [3]

Created by Ritchie333 (talk) and GreenMeansGo. Nominated by Ritchie333 (talk) at 22:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC).

  • I'm not reviewing fully, but will point out that ALT1 is not a fact, it is an advertising claim by the business founder. It's like saying "did you know that Carlsberg is probably the best beer in the world". Dahn (talk) 16:48, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
I would hope that people reading the main page would be able to obviously tell it's an opinion, and have a look at the article to see what the context was. It's kind of the point of hooks. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:45, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
It's not that it's an opinion that matters, it's that it's an opinion by the person who created the brand -- not only is it not neutral, it actually contributes publicity for the brand's claims. Hooks are not gimmicks. Dahn (talk) 15:05, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
The fact that citation references is not that it "mixes well with any drink on the planet", but that the person who sells it claims it does. So, if you feel it must be ALT 1, it needs to be rephrased accordingly -- that is, supposing "did you know that advertiser thinks their product is the best" makes for an interesting hook. Dahn (talk) 16:36, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
We could go with ALT1a ... "that the creator of Tsamma juice says it mixes well with every drink on the planet?" Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 23:20, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
  • (I think you're giving me a little too much credit here, but anyway.) It... could be amusing to do something like DYK Watermelon Juice is healthy because it's 92% water, and water is good for you? (Only sideways implying, DYK you can get 8% more water by drinking water instead of watermelon juice?) GMGtalk 13:28, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
    • Water is good for you? I heard 100% people who drink water have died. It's the gum'mint poisoning our water with DHMO, I think. epicgenius (talk) 14:59, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
      • On a serious note, I think your second "sideways implication" might quite possibly work better as a hook. Like ...that you can get 8% more water by drinking water instead of Tsamma juice? epicgenius (talk) 14:59, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
@Ritchie333 and GreenMeansGo: Here's my review:
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.
Overall: I prefer ALT0 because it seems to be more interesting than ALT1A. epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 22 March 2018 (UTC)