Template:Did you know nominations/Tobias Watkins

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The result was: promoted by DanCherek (talk) 20:32, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Tobias Watkins

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... that a former army surgeon and masonic grand master named Tobias Watkins served nine months in prison for embezzling $3,050 from the US Treasury, then two more years for failing to pay it back? grand master source: http://mdmasons.org/past-gm/tobias-watkins/; army surgeon source on p. 210: https://www.jstor.org/stable/44440418; embezzlement figure and initial sentence and fine source on p. 302: https://www.jstor.org/stable/40066806#metadata_info_tab_contents; additional two years in jail source on p. 40: https://www.jstor.org/stable/3122853?seq=1
- ALT1:... that a former masonic grand master named Tobias Watkins served nine months in prison for embezzling $3,050 from the US Treasury, then two more years for failing to pay it back?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WENS (TV)
Comment: This is my first DYK nomination. Let me know if there's something I need to work on.

Improved to Good Article status by Dugan Murphy (talk). Self-nominated at 19:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hi Dugan; nice work! This article was recently promoted to GA, so the overall article sourcing, neutrality, and plagiarism is assumed to have been covered during the GAN. A QPQ is not needed, as this is nominator's first DYK. The citations for the hook check out.

I prefer ALT1—hooks need to be hooky, not comprehensive, and I'm not sure adding his military career does much to help with that. I would shorten a little further to this:

ALT1a: ... that former masonic grand master Tobias Watkins served nine months in prison for embezzling $3,050 from the US Treasury, then two more years for failing to pay it back?

I like your ALT1a. Let's go with that. Dugan Murphy (talk) 23:06, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Also, are there no photos/paintings of Watkins available? He lived long enough ago that anything out there will be public domain and could be included (it's not required, though, of course). {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:41, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

This question also came up in the GA review. At least one published researcher has failed to find any and I haven't found any myself, though I'd love to run across one. Dugan Murphy (talk) 23:06, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Approved for ALT1a. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 00:23, 6 March 2021 (UTC)