Template:Did you know nominations/The Old Vinyl Factory

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The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 02:12, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

The Old Vinyl Factory

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• ... that the records of many of EMI's popular artists including The Beatles, Cliff Richard and Pink Floyd were manufactured at what is now The Old Vinyl Factory in Hayes in Greater London?

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Created/expanded by Harrison49 (talk). Self nom at 22:22, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

• Date of creation and length verified. Prose looks good. Photo appears to have an appropriate creative commons license. The article is largely based on a couple sources, but I did not see any plagiarism or anything disqualifying as unduly close paraphrasing. See duplication detector results here. There are a couple concerns that need to be discussed. First, the hook implies that the the referenced artists recorded at this location. In the music industry, "producing" records at a location implies the site of the recording session. See, e.g., Record producer. This locale is the site where the actual vinyl discs were "manufactured." To more accurately convey the point, I think the word "manufactured" be substituted for "produced." Second, the hook and much of the article are sourced to this web site. It's not clear to me whether this is a reliable source or not. Do you have any information as to the site? If it is a self-published blog, it may not meet Wikpedia standards as a reliable source. Cbl62 (talk) 23:14, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
  • I've changed "produced" to "manufactured". The source is a website operated by the owners of the site. Harrison49 (talk) 18:28, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

• First, I think "manufactured" avoids mis-interpretation. Thanks for clarifying the hook in this respect. Second, the sourcing is still an issue. A web site operated by the property owner does not qualify as "independent." I did a google search and found a number of independent sources confirming that the Beatles' records (as well as Queen's and Pink Floyd's) were, in fact, pressed at the EMI factory in Hayes. See [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], and [8]. If you add independent sourcing to the article and modify the hook accordingly, the hook should work. Finally, the location of "Hayes" should probably be clarified in the hook; I for one had no idea where "Hayes" was and suspect most people don't. Cbl62 (talk) 16:12, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

• I've added "Greater London" to the hook and added different references to the facts within the article. Harrison49 (talk) 21:28, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for the effort in adding further sources and clarifying the hook. This building has played an important part in the history of pop music and deserves its moment on the main page. Good to go. Cbl62 (talk) 18:15, 19 March 2012 (UTC)