Template:Did you know nominations/The End of Illa
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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 04:45, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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The End of Illa
- ... that according to science fiction essayist Jacques Van Herp, the novella The End of Illa (author pictured) sounded the temporary death knell of French science fiction? Quote from article: "In 1994, in a postscript written during the reissuing of the work by the Grama publisher, the science fiction essayist Jacques Van Herp argues that this novel was the origin of the temporary decline of French science fiction, on the grounds that it was suspected by the Amiens tribunal of perverting the youth.[6] Even though this hypothesis is contested[3]--or at least taken with precaution--it testifies to the progressive disappearance of stories of scientific imagination starting from the 1930s[49], notably through the practice of self-censorship by authors.[6]" [6] is a book, but source [3] is a magazine article available online and confirms that Jacques van Herp made this claim.
- ALT1: ... that according to science fiction writer Philippe Curval, the 1925 French science fiction novella The End of Illa (author pictured) was prophetic of the horrors of the Third Reich? Quote from article: "According to Philippe Curval, the 1925 novel accomplishes the feat of anticipating, twenty years in advance, the horrors instigated by the Third Reich.[3]", where [3] is available online
- ALT2: ... that according to science fiction essayist Jacques Van Herp, the novella The End of Illa (author pictured) caused the temporary decline of French science fiction?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/HD 175167. Also, I'm exempt because I've only nominated 1 article before.
Created by Bowlhover (talk). Self-nominated at 06:26, 12 October 2021 (UTC).
- New enough and long enough; most of the sources are behind paywalls and/or in French, including the hook citations, so I will assume in good faith that the sources were sufficiently paraphrased and that the hooks are valid. I prefer ALT0 which is properly cited; however the words "death knell" don't occur in the corresponding text in the article (
Jacques Van Herp argues that this novel was the origin of the temporary decline of French science fiction ...
) which might be confusing to readers trying to find the hook fact in the article. I suppose the article could be rewritten with "death knell" in that sentence but it may be too idiomatic for Wikipedia. DigitalIceAge (talk) 21:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- New enough and long enough; most of the sources are behind paywalls and/or in French, including the hook citations, so I will assume in good faith that the sources were sufficiently paraphrased and that the hooks are valid. I prefer ALT0 which is properly cited; however the words "death knell" don't occur in the corresponding text in the article (
- Thanks for the review! I created ALT2, which replaces "death knell" with a more literal wording that's in the citation. --Bowlhover (talk) 06:29, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- You're welcome! ALT2 looks good, and I was finally able to navigate that website to verify the fact for myself (you have to press the reblog-looking icon to view the excerpt). QPQ exempt, should be good to go. DigitalIceAge (talk) 20:02, 27 October 2021 (UTC)