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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:49, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Taillefer (Strauss)

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... that Richard Strauss composed the cantata Taillefer, based on a romantic medieval tale and set for three soloists, an eight-part choir and a large orchestra, for the centenary of the Heidelberg University?

Reviewed: Herbert L. Packer

Created by Byronmercury (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 22:28, 28 March 2016 (UTC).

This article is new enough and long enough. The information in the hook is contained in the article but some of the facts do not have inline citations. I have moved one citation out of a section heading but further referencing is required; the last sentence needs a citation for example. Why does a large part of the article consist of the lyrics of a single aria? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:37, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

For references, I hope for Byronmercury. Why would you think the lyrics are of one aria? Looks like the complete poem to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:24, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

--Gerda Arendt and Cwmhiraeth. Thanks (Diolch). The whole of the lyrics are there. It is not possible to fully appreciate and understand the music without the lyrics, and since this is English Wikipedia, readers need to see the lyrics in English. It is also useful to have them side by side: if people are listening to a recording they can look at the article on their mobile or tablet follow the sound of the German and see what it means in English. The story of Taillefer is not so well known in the English speaking world. The translations I have used are out of copyright (1864 and 1913), but this means they are also a bit old fashioned. However, the original Uhland poem dates from 1815, so it must seem fairly old fashioned to the modern German listener. The last sentence. I merely put this in after looking at the orchestral section of the two pieces mentioned on Wikipedia: both the Mahler 8 and Gurre-Lieder Wikipedia pages (and linked to in the main article). However, I have added the La Grange citation cited in the Mahler 8 page (which also mentions the Schoenberg). Byronmercury (talk) 10:16, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. My comment on the lyrics is due to ignorance. I am just surprised that three soloists and a choir are needed to perform this number of words! Anyway, we need a citation for the centenary of the Heidelberg University fact in the hook and then we'll be ready to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:06, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Cwmhiraeth Sorry for the delay, I was travelling. I have put up the two citations relating to 1803 from the wikipage on Heidelburg university ("This decline did not stop until 1803, when the university was reestablished as a state-owned institution by Karl Friedrich, Grand Duke of Baden, to whom the part of the Palatinate situated on the right bank of the Rhine was allotted."). Byronmercury (talk) 08:45, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

My concerns have been met and this nomination is now approved. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:23, 17 April 2016 (UTC)