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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 05:21, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
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Sobekneferu
- ... that Sobekneferu (pictured) of Egypt's Twelfth Dynasty is the earliest undisputed female king to reign over ancient Egypt? Source: Too complex to cite a single source, see para 1 of reign. Toby Wilkinson, 2010, pp. 128–129 would support an even stronger 'was the first' rather than 'earliest confirmed': 'The accession of Egypt's first female king ... was a sure sign that the Twelfth Dynasty had run out of steam'. See also Cooney p. 14: '[Sobekneferu] was the first woman who took the Egyptian kingship as her formal title, ruling alone for about four years'. If that's too bold given the complications regarding potential previous 'queen regnants', particularly Merneith and the probably fictitious Nitocris, then:
- ALT1:... that Sobekneferu (pictured) was one of ancient Egypt's few female kings and the first to adopt the full royal titulary? Source: Cooney, p. 12: 'Once upon a time, there were women who ruled the world. Six of them – Merneith, Neferusobek, Hatshepsut, Nefertiti, Tawosret, and Cleopatra ...' ; Robins, p. 108: 'Although kingship was regarded as a male office ... nevertheless a few female rulers are known'. Gillam, p. 301: 'Like some earlier female rulers of Egypt, she probably gained her position through the lack of a viable male heir; unlike the others, however, she assumed the full royal titulary, where her feminine gender was carefully noted'. The bit about 'feminine gender' refers to the use of the hieroglyph for 't' in her titulary. E.g. sꜣt-rꜥ (daughter of re) instead of sꜣ-rꜥ (son of re).
- Comment: This image is of the only known bust with her face. It's not the finest, so I can understand if its skipped over for another nom.
Improved to Good Article status by Mr rnddude (talk). Self-nominated at 04:34, 14 September 2021 (UTC).
- A well-written article recently promoted to GA; good work! No copyvio. Both hooks are interesting and referenced in the article (accepting the offline sources in good faith); I prefer the first one. The image is creative commons and has a caption (IMO, I think that it is not a bad image/bust, considering that many pharaohs got it much worse). Only the QPQ is missing. Applodion (talk) 10:14, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- Applodion - I am presently exempt from WP:QPQ. See here. Mr rnddude (talk) 10:22, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry, I assumed that an experienced editor like you must already have had more than five DYKs. I should have checked. Anyway, in that case, everything is in order. Applodion (talk) 10:25, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- That's fine. I very rarely create articles and haven't gone through GAN in a few years, so haven't had anything to nominate at DYK in a long while. Only reason I thought of nominating this time round was because I figured a notable female subject might be of interest to the readership. Mr rnddude (talk) 11:07, 16 September 2021 (UTC)