Template:Did you know nominations/Snezhnika

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 17:43, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Snezhnika

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~~... that the Snezhnika (pictured) glacieret in the Pirin Mountains of Bulgaria is Europe's southernmost glacial mass?~~

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nominated at 20:32, 6 March 2015 (UTC).

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gheorghe Bogdan-Duică

Oh your're right, then the article is good to go! Article adheres to all parts of the DYK review- its new, long enough, within policy, hooks good, and there is QPQ.

~~From my understanding, the article must have been edited in the past 7 days (5 fold?). Last day edited is March 7. Besides that, the article adheres to all of the DYK nom requirements!~~

Hi! It should be no more than seven days old on the date of submission. — Toдor Boжinov — 21:13, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Comment: I like the article, it fits all the requirements, but the hook could use some work. How is a glacieret different from a glacier? The link glaceriet goes to glacier, but instinct tells me that it is smaller than a glacier? I would make this distinct in your hook. What is a glacier mass? If said, what is the most southern glacier mass in Europe? This needs to be specific. Last, what are the boundaries of Europe, aka HOW is this the most southern glacier mass? Jdanbeck (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

ALT1: * ~~... that the Snezhnika glacier located in the Pirin Mountains in Bulgaria is the most southern glacier in Europe?~~

Thanks for the review! A glacieret is a quasi-permanent remnant of a glacier. A more detailed definition can be found in the Grunewald paper, p. 130. Snezhnika definitely cannot be called a full-fledged glacier and it seems Europe's southernmost proper glacier for now is the Calderone glacier (it's disappearing quickly), so your version isn't factually correct anymore.

Europe's southern boundary is quite clear: the Mediterranean Sea, so the 'southernmost in Europe' part shouldn't be a matter of dispute.

I'd suggest dropping glacieret from the hook, but keeping 'glacial mass' as per the references and their terminology, like so: — Toдor Boжinov — 22:04, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that Snezhnika, located in the Pirin Mountains in Bulgaria, is the southernmost glacial mass in Europe?

Full review needed. Comments above are not a review. Please refer to DYK Reviewing guide — Maile (talk) 19:34, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Original reviewer has added details to his review. Also, for promoter clarity, I've struck the original hook. The nominator suggested a slight rewording in ALT2, but slight enough not to require a new review. — Maile (talk) 17:39, 8 April 2015 (UTC)