Template:Did you know nominations/Selah (Kanye West song)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Vincent60030 (talk) 15:27, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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Selah (Kanye West song)
... that Kanye West sampled the Sunday Service Choir's "Revelations 19:1" rendition on "Selah" before the rendition had been released?- Improved to Good Article status by Kyle Peake (talk). Self-nominated at 11:03, 5 August 2020 (UTC).
Nominated within 7 days of receiving GA. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Images are freely licensed. The hook is verified and cited inline. But I'm wondering why you often hide the song title behind words like a track
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rather than say the name of the song? In this case, the song title is short enough to write:- ALT1: ... that Kanye West sampled the Sunday Service Choir's "Revelations 19:1" rendition on his song "Selah" before the rendition had been released? Yoninah (talk) 22:15, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. Yoninah (talk) 22:15, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yoninah I do this because it seems too obvious to write the song's title, is doing as I currently am acceptable or does it need to be changed right now? --K. Peake 05:19, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Kyle Peake: it's too vague. Take a look at WP:DYKA and see how specific song (and other title hooks) are. BTW your goal in writing a "hook" is to "reel" the reader in to click on the article and learn more. When you write it this way, you're just writing a statement of fact and telling me everything I need to know, so there's no reason to click and read further. Yoninah (talk) 10:31, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: Isn't it fine with the title added now since this does not give full info because the songs were actual released two months apart? --K. Peake 15:55, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- ALT0a:
... that Kanye West sampled the Sunday Service Choir's "Revelations 19:1" rendition on "Selah" before the rendition had been released?- First, let's restore the thread. We don't edit the hooks under consideration because then other editors will be unable to follow the discussion. I have placed your new alt at the bottom of the thread and numbered it accordingly. Yoninah (talk) 17:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Kyle Peake: In answer to your question, yes, the hook is okay. My "by the way" note was just something extra to think about when writing hooks. Now, would you prefer the wording in ALT0a or ALT1? Should we say that "Selah" is a song, or is it obvious? Yoninah (talk) 17:44, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Kyle Peake: it's too vague. Take a look at WP:DYKA and see how specific song (and other title hooks) are. BTW your goal in writing a "hook" is to "reel" the reader in to click on the article and learn more. When you write it this way, you're just writing a statement of fact and telling me everything I need to know, so there's no reason to click and read further. Yoninah (talk) 10:31, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
