Template:Did you know nominations/Roberts Landing

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:18, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Roberts Landing, California

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View of Roberts Landing from the west, 2016; restored marshland in foreground

~~... that Roberts Landing, California (pictured, with restored marsh in foreground) was heavily polluted by an explosives company, and then cleaned up to create a housing development and a marsh?~~ Source: [1], [2]

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zenker's fruit bat. Drmies (talk) 15:49, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

5x expanded by Uncle G (talk) and Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 15:49, 3 August 2019 (UTC).

You could probably get the Trojan Powder Company into that. Uncle G (talk) 00:26, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- I would leave Trojan Powder out of it. That article is just a collection of sometimes contradictory clippings arranged chronologically. There is no source that gives an overview. Probably the corporate records got lost in one of the explosions. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:49, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
  - Not even as "an explosives company"? Uncle G (talk) 08:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
    - Maybe I am being too picky, but I would prefer an article that had some numbers on production volumes, income and employees. I suppose it is an o.k. start though and meets DYK criteria. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:20, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Willing to review, but need sleep first. We don't need the complicated caption twice. Please find a way that doesn't pretend to picture California ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Full review needed. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:06, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting: - I would suggest saying "Roberts Landing, on San Francisco Bay". I think it's interesting that there is a restored marsh on the bay of such a large city - just saying California, it could be anywhere. If the mouse picture is used (see below), you might want to say something like "and a restored salt marsh (pictured)".

Image eligibility:

Freely licensed:
Used in article:
Clear at 100px: - It's not really clear that it's restored marsh in the foreground. I suggest using the pic of the endangered salt marsh harvest mouse, which is in the public domain.

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Pinging Drmies, Aymatth2, Uncle G for consideration of the hook and picture. Also, a couple of minor points: In the 3rd para of the "Early years" section, why does it suddenly say "Robert (or Roberts)"? When did CALM campaign? RebeccaGreen (talk) 18:11, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the heavily polluted Roberts Landing, California was cleaned up to create a housing development and a marsh, where the endangered salt marsh harvest mouse (pictured) lives? Drmies (talk) 20:03, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
@RebeccaGreen, Drmies, and Uncle G: I have changed "Robert (or Roberts)" to "Roberts": the name confusion is mentioned in a footnote. Have added "in the late 1980’s" to the sentence on CALM. The picture from the air is not very good, but the picture of the mouse may not be of the marsh. I would be inclined to skip the picture, as below:
ALT2 ... that the polluted Roberts Landing on San Francisco Bay, California was cleaned up to create a housing development and a marsh, now home of the endangered salt marsh harvest mouse (pictured)? (190 characters) Aymatth2 (talk) 20:20, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

OK, the minor points I raised have been addressed, and I think the ALT hooks now do draw readers' interest, that somewhere heavily polluted is now home to endangered species. I have struck ALT0. I prefer ALT2, but will leave ALT1 for promoters' consideration. The pic may not be of that same marsh, but the hook isn't saying so, and that's definitely the San Francisco Bay salt marsh harvest mouse, so I have added (pictured) back into the hook. The photo may or may not get used anyway. RebeccaGreen (talk) 20:33, 28 August 2019 (UTC)