Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Runyon

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The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 18:41, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Robert Runyon

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... that self-taught botanist and photographer Robert Runyon served as mayor of Brownsville, Texas and was a Kentucky colonel?

Created by TDogg310 (talk). Self nom at 19:10, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

The article is new and (just) meets the length requirements. I've read the two online bios and whilst phrasing is sometimes similar, that's unavoidable to some extent when a bio is so brief. The hook is rather dull; it's much more interesting that his photos of the Mexican Revolution are a pretty unique record. My concern with the article is that it's still a stub. It lacks structure (the whole text is one long paragraph) and there are no headings. Please refer to rules D7 and D11 of the supplementary guidelines. It shouldn't be too hard to bring this over the line, though, but in its current state, I advise against it going onto the homepage. Schwede 66 18:47, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I've expanded the article's text and divided it into sections. It no longer is a stub.--TDogg310 (talk) 18:48, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

100px|Aftermath of Norias Ranch Raid

ALT1: ... that photographer Robert Runyon was the only professional to photograph the Norias Ranch Raid of 1915 (aftermath pictured)?--TDogg310 (talk) 18:48, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Fair use photos are not allowed for DYK. Schwede 66 19:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Since the image was taken in 1915, it is part of the public domain. The uploader of the image was mistaken and I have moved it to Wikimedia Commons.--TDogg310 (talk) 17:55, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

The image was taken in 1915. I don't dispute that at all. That, however, is not the criteria for the pre-1923 copyright status. It's publication date. Can you identify a publication date? I've not seen one at the source. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:45, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

The University of Texas at Austin retains copyright since it posthumously published the photographs. That means all of his photos on Wikimedia Commons are incorrectly identified as being public domain and should also be removed. Regardless, I don't think a hook describing his photography would be very interesting without an accompanying image.--TDogg310 (talk) 21:30, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

The issues identified in the first review of the article have been resolved. I suggest the following as a hook:

ALT2 ... that Robert Runyon photographed significant events of the Mexican Revolution, discovered several new plant species, and was mayor of Brownsville, Texas? --Orlady (talk) 17:31, 5 February 2012 (UTC)