Template:Did you know nominations/Requiem for the Living
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:55, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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Requiem for the Living
- ... that in Requiem for the Living, a setting of selected texts from the Requiem mass and an additional movement about vanity, composed by Dan Forrest
(pictured), the choir sings seemingly endless melodies? Source: several
- Reviewed:
to come - Comment: Remebering the dead, please no later than 30 November. - If no image we should add "in 2013", because being recent - and played round the globe, even in our little town ;) - is a key aspect, besides the title. I will add, but there is RL, and I don't want to miss the "window" for nominating.
- Reviewed:
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 10:05, 6 November 2019 (UTC).
Article is expanded from a redirect in the appropriate timeframe, long enough, free of close paraphrasing, and is adequately sourced. I can't see where "vanity" is mentioned in the article. Have to AGF for the German source citing "endless melodies". Also QPQ is not done. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:30, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking. The movement is in Latin "Vanitas Vanitarum", which is mentioned, and I thought for our general public Vanitas would be too Latin, so piped it to vanity. I think "Vanitas (vanity)" would be as correct as clumsy, also leave other meanings of vanity, while the linked Vanitas article describes well what is meant: "a symbolic work of art showing the transience of life, the futility of pleasure, and the certainty of death, often contrasting symbols of wealth and symbols of ephemerality and death", and goes further about "emptiness", "transitoriness", - hard to catch in one word. - I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Hellvi helmet eyebrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:00, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- I'd prefer "Vanitas", it means something more specific than what would be normally referred to as vanity, it's more reminding the viewer of the shortness of life. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 23:07, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that in Requiem for the Living, a setting of selected texts from the Requiem mass and an additional movement about Vanitas, composed by Dan Forrest (pictured), the choir sings seemingly endless melodies? - I was just told that readers of English wouldn't get "Wiener Sängerknaben". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Okay, let's run with that. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 23:14, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that in Requiem for the Living, a setting of selected texts from the Requiem mass and an additional movement about Vanitas, composed by Dan Forrest (pictured), the choir sings seemingly endless melodies? - I was just told that readers of English wouldn't get "Wiener Sängerknaben". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- I'd prefer "Vanitas", it means something more specific than what would be normally referred to as vanity, it's more reminding the viewer of the shortness of life. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 23:07, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking. The movement is in Latin "Vanitas Vanitarum", which is mentioned, and I thought for our general public Vanitas would be too Latin, so piped it to vanity. I think "Vanitas (vanity)" would be as correct as clumsy, also leave other meanings of vanity, while the linked Vanitas article describes well what is meant: "a symbolic work of art showing the transience of life, the futility of pleasure, and the certainty of death, often contrasting symbols of wealth and symbols of ephemerality and death", and goes further about "emptiness", "transitoriness", - hard to catch in one word. - I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Hellvi helmet eyebrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:00, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Ritchie333 I can't see the photo is ok for main page. Says "All rights reserved" at bottom of source webpage, & no OTRS ticket. Johnbod (talk) 02:36, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- Even more, the photo metadata credits the photo to "J.Aaron Greene", so even if Forrest did wish the photo to be freely used, he may not have the right to do so. Gerda Arendt, Ritchie333, given Johnbod's point, I don't see how we can run the photo here at DYK, and it may need to be removed from the article as well. Will the hook need to be adjusted since the nomination did not run prior to 30 November? (It sounded like it needed to be adjusted if run without the photo.) BlueMoonset (talk) 08:07, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- I thought that we just run it without image. I now remove File:Dan Forrest.jpg here, and will remove it from the article. The hook wording doesn't need adjustment to a date in the Christmas season, other than removing the "pictured". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Suggesting the following slight revision of ALT1 to reduce the number of clauses while retaining the same information (and removing "pictured"):
- ALT1a: ... that in Requiem for the Living, a setting by Dan Forrest of selected texts from the Requiem mass and an additional movement about Vanitas, the choir sings seemingly endless melodies? —BlueMoonset (talk) 08:25, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- I thought that we just run it without image. I now remove File:Dan Forrest.jpg here, and will remove it from the article. The hook wording doesn't need adjustment to a date in the Christmas season, other than removing the "pictured". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
