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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by BencherliteTalk 13:26, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Renz L. Jennings

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  • ... that then Arizona Supreme Court Justice Renz L. Jennings appeared in a 1961 episode of I've Got a Secret as a "one-man band", playing the guitar, harmonica, and drums at the same time?
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by ErieSwiftByrd (talk). Self-nominated at 02:33, 7 March 2017 (UTC).

  • New enough and long enough, with an interesting hook. Third DYK nomination for the nominator, so no QPQ needed yet. Taking the newspaper source for the hook fact on good faith as it is offline and the other source for this (a Youtube clip) is primary. However, Earwig finds too much close paraphrasing to pass this. Compare our article's "Orphaned at an early age, Jennings grew up poor and lived with his sister, then later a brother." with source [1]'s "Orphaned at an early age, Mr. Jennings grew up poor and lived with his sister, then later a brother.", and our article's "Jennings passed the State Bar Exam in 1926, one of only seven people to pass the exam that year." with source [1]'s "Jennings passed the State Bar Exam in 1926, one of only seven people to pass the exam that year." (the same sentences are also repeated at the ourcampaigns external link). This is especially worrisome in view of the high number of offline sources cited. All material here needs to be written in original words, not copied nor closely paraphrased from sources. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:01, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
I did my best to re-right the paraphrasing in the early life section and did some light cleaning of the rest of the article. Any other issues?ErieSwiftByrd (talk) 18:41, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi, the biggest concern with the article (close paraphrasing) was addressed. There is 2.9% match now and they are only names and specific terms. The article is almost ready. Here are some stuff you need to fix before: (1) A lot of the references are not complete. Take a look at sources 1, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13. They are either missing the publishers, titles, and/or dates of publication. (2) Make sure that all the info in the infobox is cited elsewhere in the article, per WP:INFOBOX. Lloyd Andrews, Harry Johnson, and his DOB/POB are not cited in the body paragraphs. (3) as far as the YouTube source, I'm undecided. Would you be able to find the original source, or at least know how the original source is cited? That would suffice. Let me know when you're done and I'll go ahead and review this again. Don't get discouraged! The article is very close to getting promoted. ComputerJA () 23:28, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
BTW, consider using this format when adding full citations. It is much easier and cleaner (in my opinion). For news articles, use this template. Let me know if you have any questions. ComputerJA () 23:48, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
  • @ErieSwiftByrd: - Please let us know if you will pursue with this nomination. It's almost been a week since my comment. I'd be happy to give you more time if you need it, but please let me know how much time you need so I can take a look at it when you are done. Please don't feel discouraged. This article is almost ripe for promotion! ComputerJA () 00:37, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
  • BTW, since the YouTube source was not uploaded by the actual publisher of the clip, make sure to cite the video without the link and provide as much info as you can. I think this place can help: Template:Cite episode. ComputerJA () 04:14, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
@ErieSwiftByrd: No response in over a week even though there was some activity on Wikipedia from his/her end after my suggestions. ComputerJA () 19:43, 2 April 2017 (UTC)