Template:Did you know nominations/Ratking (group)

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 04:44, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Ratking (group)

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~~... that Wiki, the leader of New York rap group Ratking, took his stage name from Wikipedia?~~

ALT1:... that Wiki, the leader of New York rap group Ratking, took his stage name from an online encyclopedia?

5x expanded by GiantSnowman (talk). Self nominated at 18:32, 9 January 2015 (UTC).

New article. Length and hook check out. Article is sourced. QPQ done. Can't check for paraphrasing but will assume it's fine. This is Paul (talk) (disclaimer) 19:49, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

@This is Paul: - hi Paul, thanks for reviewing. The fact he is leader is confirmed by this (he is the "lead MC") and this (he is the "frontman"); the fact his name derives from Wikipedia is confirmed by this ("my rap name is based on Wikipedia") and supported by this (he "took his alias from a rather well-known internet site") - all sources are already present and the claims are already directly cited. Unsure what you mean by 'paraphrasing'? More than happy to re-word if required. Giant Snowman 20:10, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman:, the sources are fine so don't worry about that. I'm more than happy with how it stands now. Paraphrasing just means if there are any sentences that sound similar to the original text. It's something that I can't check, but I only mentioned it because someone picked me up on it during a previous review. Someone will check though before it gets added to the list, so no need to panic. Cheers, This is Paul (talk) 20:24, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

@This is Paul: If you are leaving this for another editor to check, you have not done a proper review. WP:AGF is for offline sources. You can check the online sources in this article with Earwig's tool, or by opening each source and reading it against the article. Yoninah (talk) 16:57, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

The nominator also has more than 5 DYKs, so a QPQ is in order. Yoninah (talk) 16:59, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

@Yoninah: yeah I wouldn't have a clue where to start with that, so it's not going to happen. Giant Snowman 17:09, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

@Yoninah:, replied on your talk page as there was quite a lot to say. @GiantSnowman:, QPQ means quid pro quo, in other words it's generally accepted that you need to review an article to have one reviewed. But no problem, just choose one from Template talk:Did you know or you could go to Category:Pending DYK nominations. I tend to do the latter as they're easier to find and the page takes ages to load. Good luck. This is Paul (talk) 18:30, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I reviewed all the sources and only found copying of minor phrasing, which falls under WP:LIMITED. The hook ref is verified and cited inline. Yoninah (talk) 19:33, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, This is Paul (talk) 20:33, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Yeah what I mean is I wouldn't have a clue how to review another DYK, and it's not particularly something I would feel comfortable doing. The requirement of QPQ when it was introduced a few years ago is what stopped me contributing to DYK, and to be honest the only reason I came back and nominated this article was that I thought it had been abolished. Giant Snowman 18:50, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I understand your concerns, GiantSnowman. But QPQ is here to stay. Just as you have to make sure that your nomination is new enough, long enough, neutrally written, no close paraphrasing, hook ref verified, and a QPQ done, these are the things you should check in another nomination. Perhaps it would be a good idea to choose a hook submitted by one of the DYK regulars and try your hand at that. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have along the way. Yoninah (talk) 19:00, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

@Yoninah: if you can suggest a regular editor/DYK to review then let me know please... Giant Snowman 19:50, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

QPQ done: Template:Did you know nominations/Sigma Delta Rho. @This is Paul: this nomination is ready for your tick. Yoninah (talk) 20:40, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Good to go now QPQ is done. @Yoninah:, thanks for keeping me updated with this. This is Paul (talk) 20:50, 14 January 2015 (UTC)