Template:Did you know nominations/Place D'Youville (Quebec)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:17, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
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Place D'Youville (Quebec)
[edit]- ... that in 1996, following Saint-Jean-Baptiste Day celebrations in Quebec City, riots took place in Place D'Youville causing around $1 million CAD in damages to shops and the National Assembly of Quebec? Source: Cardwell, Mark (July 8, 1996). Violence erupts in the heart of a charmed city. Maclean's. p. 16. ISSN 0315-2731. Retrieved 15 October 2017.
- Reviewed: Milli Fire
5x expanded by Jon Kolbert (talk). Self-nominated at 02:51, 16 October 2017 (UTC).
Accounting for the removal of copypasted text, this article satisfies the 5x expansion criteria and was nominated within the one-week requirement. QPQ is in progress. The first paragraph in "Redevelopment" needs a citation, per WP:DYKSG rule D2. Does "Attention turned towards..." refer to global media, Canadian media, or Quebec/local media? Parts of the second and third paragraphs of "Redevelopment" appear to be direct translations of the source text, or very close to it; please rephrase these, as they represent close paraphrasing. You also translated "ampleur" as "amplified", whereas in my opinion "numerous" would be more appropriate in this case. "...by the year 1993..." should be just "...1993...". I think it's worth mentioning who the outsiders were. Other than these issues, the article is sourced and written in a neutral tone. At 199 characters, the hook is lengthy but within the acceptable range, and is sourced. I think a shorter, catchier hook may get more views. I've also amended the original hook as ALT1, which is slightly shorter but does not change any aspect of the hook; what do you think of it? Mindmatrix 15:09, 20 October 2017 (UTC)ALT1: ... that rioting following the 1996 Saint-Jean-Baptiste Day celebrations at Place D'Youville in Quebec City caused around $1 million CAD in damages to shops and the National Assembly of Quebec?
- Mindmatrix, I read ALT1 as saying that both the holiday celebrations and the rioting were at Place D'Youville, but reading the article, I don't see support for anything but the riot being at the Place; the celebrations could easily have been elsewhere in Quebec. The original hook is more clear in this regard. (Unfortunately, the link in the cited source goes to Worldcat, not to an online copy of the source material, so I'm unable to check myself.) BlueMoonset (talk) 06:41, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
- I found it at the author's website (Violence erupts in the heart of a charmed city) which states the holiday festivities occurred at the Plains of Abraham. Mindmatrix 16:52, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hey @Mindmatrix and BlueMoonset:, sorry about the delay - I got caught up in other stuff and thought I had already responded here but hadn't. I've adjusted the wording for "Attention turned towards..." to specify Quebec media. I also think I've reasonably addressed the other issues - the diff since your last edit. I also agree with BlueMoonset - my interpretation was that after the celebrations which took place in multiple locations, many people converged at Place D'Youville which led to the riots there. Jon Kolbert (talk) 22:20, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
