Template:Did you know nominations/Pillar of Gor
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:48, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
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Pillar of Gor
[edit]... that the central Pillar of the Sassanid circular city of Gor may have been an observation tower, a water tower, part of a temple, symbol of the new centralized government, or a combination thereof?(sources: [1][2][3])- ALT1:
... that the unique Pillar located in the center of the Sassanian circular city of Gor is the ultimate architectural predecessor of the Chapel of Thanksgiving in the Thanks-Giving Square, Dallas, Texas?(sources: [4][5]) - ALT2:
... that the Pillar of Gor, located in the very center of the Sassanian-era circular city, may have been functioned as a watchtower, "water tower", and part of a temple for the goddess of the Waters?
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- Comment: Personally, I would choose the first hook, since the function of the structure is like an interesting mystery to me, but since the readers of the English WP are probably mostly Americans, the second version may look as interesting.
Created by ZxxZxxZ (talk). Self-nominated at 15:29, 13 May 2017 (UTC).
Interesting structure and history, on good sources, Iranian sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I also like the first hook best, but don't like a piped link of the subject, so suggest:- ALT3:
... that the Pillar of Gor in the centre of a Sassanid circular city may have been an observation tower, a water tower, part of a temple, a symbol of the new government, or a combination?- Do me a favour: give us for every reference not only the "bare" url, but a title, a publisher, an author if known, a date or year if known, and an accessdate unless it's a book. I use cite templates. Tell me if you need help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt: Thanks for stopping by, I have standardized the citations. --Z 18:18, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you. I tried something with the opening sentence, please check. Let me understand: Terbal is yet another name. Does it mean this specific structure, then Terbal, or is it a generic word such as pillar, then the terbal, or the Terbal? In case of doubt, perhaps better say the Pillar? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:34, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- I think all of them should start with capital letters: Terbal, Minar and Minaret, these are both generic words (in case of terbal, a rare generic word) as well as specific names to refer to the structure. The word minar means "pillar", which I mentioned in the lead, and minaret simply means "minaret", so I didn't mention it. "Pillar of Gor" is the English equivalent of the most common name in Persian; I just found out "X of Firuzabad/Gor" are not really common, and the most common name to refer to the structure in Western sources is "Minar" and "Terbal", and to a lesser extent, "Minaret". --Z 18:49, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- I have moved the article to Minar (Firuzabad) as I changed my mind after more searching in English. I think the first sentence in the hook should be changed, something like "that Minar, the central tower-like structure in the centre of ..." or something like "that the central pillar in ..." to make it shorter. --Z 19:13, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- Understand, - you please write that ALT4, with Minar (because readers will think they know Pillar), - it will be shorter if you have "central" only once ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:39, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oops, I propose this:
- Understand, - you please write that ALT4, with Minar (because readers will think they know Pillar), - it will be shorter if you have "central" only once ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:39, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- ALT4:
... that Minar, a tower-like structure in the centre of a Sassanid circular city, may have been an observation tower, a water tower, part of a temple, a symbol of the new government, or a combination?(200 charachters)- --Z 06:32, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- I shorten it - let's not say it all - to
- ALT5: ... that the Minar in the centre of a Sassanid circular city may have been an observation tower, a water tower, part of a temple, a symbol of the new government, or a combination?
unless you have a better idea. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- --Z 06:32, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you. I tried something with the opening sentence, please check. Let me understand: Terbal is yet another name. Does it mean this specific structure, then Terbal, or is it a generic word such as pillar, then the terbal, or the Terbal? In case of doubt, perhaps better say the Pillar? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:34, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt: Thanks for stopping by, I have standardized the citations. --Z 18:18, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
