Template:Did you know nominations/Outta My Head (Leona Lewis song)
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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 23:28, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
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Outta My Head (Leona Lewis song)
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that "Outta My Head", a song performed by Leona Lewis, is different from any other song on Echo?
5x expanded by Calvin999 (talk). Self nominated at 19:17, 15 May 2013 (UTC).
That's how it should be. Every song should be different from other. Hook should be something interesting. If it was plagiarised, then it would be an interesting hook. Rejecting now. Alternatives welcome. Article not reviewed. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 04:44, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- Not necessarily. She said that Echo is a guitar and string driven album, and critics picked up on the fact that "Outta My Head" uses neither and is noticeably up-tempo and different in style, but anyway:
- ALT2: ... that Leona Lewis can be heard "cooing impossibly high melodies over bouncing club beats" on "Outta My Head"? — AARON • TALK 10:16, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- Alt2 is full of a reviewer's point of view. The hook should be a fact rather than someone's POV. Also, most importantly, how is the subject even notable enough to stay on Wikipedia? 98th on some chart? Is that it's notability? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:56, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- There's no rule that says a quote can't be used. And a chart is a chart, we don't decide what countries in the world carry more significance. Believe it or not, the US is not the only country in the world. Acquaint yourself if rules please. (Besides, charting is not actually a requirement). — AARON • TALK 11:02, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- But there is a rule that the hook has to be a fact. Here "cooing impossibly high melodies over bouncing club beats" is someone's opinion about the song rather than fact. According to me the subject doesnt pass any notability criteria that would want a separate standalone article. Rest you may speak on the AFD that i raise. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:15, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- it is a fact though, or else the critic wouldn't have written it? You're being ridiculous. — AARON • TALK 11:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- Its not. "Impossibly high", "melody" and "bouncing" are adjectives here indicating POV. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:39, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- As with other similar DYKs, using quotes, while may be frowned upon by some editors, is not a breach of the official rules.. I really don't see what's the matter with quotes. Thousands of approved DYK noms with quotes for their hook have been featured on the main page. And don't cite WP:OTHERCRAP to rebut me. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:24, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- Its not. "Impossibly high", "melody" and "bouncing" are adjectives here indicating POV. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:39, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- it is a fact though, or else the critic wouldn't have written it? You're being ridiculous. — AARON • TALK 11:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- But there is a rule that the hook has to be a fact. Here "cooing impossibly high melodies over bouncing club beats" is someone's opinion about the song rather than fact. According to me the subject doesnt pass any notability criteria that would want a separate standalone article. Rest you may speak on the AFD that i raise. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:15, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- There's no rule that says a quote can't be used. And a chart is a chart, we don't decide what countries in the world carry more significance. Believe it or not, the US is not the only country in the world. Acquaint yourself if rules please. (Besides, charting is not actually a requirement). — AARON • TALK 11:02, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- Alt2 is full of a reviewer's point of view. The hook should be a fact rather than someone's POV. Also, most importantly, how is the subject even notable enough to stay on Wikipedia? 98th on some chart? Is that it's notability? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:56, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
I disagree with first reviewer's ridiculous comments. This is not the first time he has done so. Allowing me to review, this article passes comfortably well and meets our core DYK guidelines. Good to go for second ALT. Any problems, ping me. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:24, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- Note for admins. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Outta My Head (Leona Lewis song) needs to close. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 12:18, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Should not be marked ready before AFD is closed. -Zanhe (talk) 09:41, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- It was ready. This was nommed before it was AfDed. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 04:21, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- Reviewing guide "DYK nominations for articles at WP:AfD should be held pending the outcome of the deletion discussion." Doesn't matter that it was nominated before the AFD. — Maile (talk) 17:45, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- It was ready. This was nommed before it was AfDed. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 04:21, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- Result was keep — AARON • TALK 22:06, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Good to go then. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:26, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- ALT2 yeah? — AARON • TALK 22:46, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:54, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- Is this really 5x expanded? Looking at the history, the article existed in 2012 but was redirected. Should it not be a 5x expansion from what it was before the redirect? Or am I wrong? –anemoneprojectors– 10:08, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- We work on what size an article was before the current expansion began. It is not unheard of for an article to be reduced to a redirect, and created anew. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:53, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. I wasn't really sure. –anemoneprojectors– 21:40, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- We work on what size an article was before the current expansion began. It is not unheard of for an article to be reduced to a redirect, and created anew. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:53, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- Is this really 5x expanded? Looking at the history, the article existed in 2012 but was redirected. Should it not be a 5x expansion from what it was before the redirect? Or am I wrong? –anemoneprojectors– 10:08, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:54, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- ALT2 yeah? — AARON • TALK 22:46, 23 May 2013 (UTC)