Template:Did you know nominations/Outremer
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by Flibirigit (talk) 04:36, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
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Crusader states
Outremer, or the Crusader states, were feudal Christian states created by a series of religious wars initiated, supported and sometimes directed by the Latin Church in the Middle Ages. These states in the Levant were the first examples of "Europe overseas" and became known to historians by the French version of the phrase, Outremer.
Improved to Good Article status by Norfolkbigfish (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC).
- @Norfolkbigfish: can you provide a hook? ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:32, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Might need you help on this one CAPTAIN MEDUSA, it is my first DYK. I though Outremer, or the Crusader states, were feudal Christian states created by a series of religious wars initiated, supported and sometimes directed by the Latin Church in the Middle Ages. These states in the Levant were the first examples of "Europe overseas" and became known to historians by the French version of the phrase, Outremer. was a hook for this. Apologies for my ignorance Norfolkbigfish (talk) 13:38, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Norfolkbigfish, That is kind of like a sentence to me. I need a short hook, that is catchy, about the article. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:43, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- How about The Outremer created by the First Crusade in the Levant was the first example of an "Europe Overseas"? Norfolkbigfish (talk) 13:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Outremer created by the First Crusade in the Levant was the first example of an "Europe overseas"?
- I have formated the hook for you.
Full review needed. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 14:01, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- I have formated the hook for you.
- ALT2: ... that the Outremer, or Crusader states, were feudal Christian states supported and sometimes directed by the Latin Church in the Middle Ages? --evrik (talk) 05:35, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- Just a remark. I requested the reassessment of the article. The proposed hook is quite problematic: it presents a scholarly PoV as a fact and it ignores the experience of Greek colonies and the Hellenistic states in Antiquity. Borsoka (talk) 04:05, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Given the sheer number of templates in the article, a review would not be useful at this time. Once the issues are settled such that templates are no longer needed, we can call for a reviewer at that time provided the article has not been delisted at GAR. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:48, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
@Norfolkbigfish: I'm going to say no on this one for now. Please relist it once the article gets the tags removed. Once you relist this, ping me and I will do the DYK review for you. --evrik (talk) 23:57, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- Agreed that this should be closed. It seems likely, too, that the article will be delisted—even Norfolkbigfish is in favor of delisting it. Should that happen, a renomination would have to wait for the article to be passed once again as a GA. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:27, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- Closed nomination as per above comments. No prejudice against renomination if/when article passes GA status. Flibirigit (talk) 04:36, 12 June 2020 (UTC)