Template:Did you know nominations/On The Receipt Of My Mother's Picture

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The result was: promoted by Alex Shih ^Talk 18:06, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

On the Receipt of My Mother's Picture

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... that the 1798 poem "On the Receipt of My Mother's Picture" was written by William Cowper because he loved his mother, who died when he was six years old?

Reviewed: Chris Holtmann

Created by SL93 (talk). Self nominated at 19:34, 18 July 2013 (UTC).

I got the idea for this article when I picked up a very old battered book of poetry at the library in Kingsley, Iowa. SL93 (talk) 21:11, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

It might have something to do with the evolution of British spelling... I don't know what publishing practices are, but the poem is replete with obvious American spellings in today's usage, which I don't find acceptable when the subject should be cited as it is actually spelt at the hand of the author. Maybe you should refer to an English edition of the work. Also, the title does not comply with MOS:CT. -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 14:40, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I can find another source for it, but I'm not sure how the title is wrong now. I moved the article to make "Of" lower case. SL93 (talk) 15:49, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
I have made "The" lower case. SL93 (talk) 15:53, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I think that takes care of the incorrect capitalisations, thanks. -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 16:35, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I can remove the poem instead of fixing it if preferred. I can also fix it, move it to Wikisource as it is not currently there, and then add a link to the Wikisource page here. SL93 (talk) 15:57, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

That's always possible. But I don't think it's a problem anyway becoz the poem is long time out of copyright. Your call. -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 16:35, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- Alright. I will fix the poem sometime today and with a reference. SL93 (talk) 16:36, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

If anyone can find the name of the poet's mother, that would be great. I can't find it anywhere and it isn't even in the article about him. I don't understand why though because of a notable poem being written about her. SL93 (talk) 18:36, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Her name was Ann. Gamaliel (talk) 20:34, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I wasn't sure if I could use Wikisource as a reference, so I found a link based on the information which says her name. I added his father's name as well because he is mentioned in the article. The link is to a museum's website. SL93 (talk) 20:47, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I have fixed the poem by using this book that was published in 1798. SL93 (talk) 21:38, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I see the American publishers have taken quite some liberties with the spellings and styling. -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 23:07, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, the 1875 source that I used says that it was published in 1799, but the source is definitely the second publication. SL93 (talk) 21:45, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Full review needed of nomination. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:13, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Two concerns: Firstly, I think the hook needs to be reworded. The fact that William Cowper loved his mother isn't especially surprising. Something like "in memory of his mother" would be better. Secondly, because this is a fairly lengthy poem, the full text of it shouldn't be included in the article (per WP:NOFULLTEXT). It needs to be moved to Wikisource. DoctorKubla (talk) 13:48, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have removed the poem. ALT1:... that the 1798 poem "On the Receipt of My Mother's Picture" was written by William Cowper in memory of his mother, who died when he was six years old?" SL93 (talk) 15:16, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
  - Okay. Article meets all DYK criteria, just need someone else to review ALT1, since I kind of suggested it. DoctorKubla (talk) 06:50, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

ALT1 addressed the issue in the original hook. The length is satisfactory for the coverage. Promoting due to no other issues have been identified. Alex Shih ^Talk 18:06, 3 August 2013 (UTC)