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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 23:21, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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Ojos de Mar
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that salty, turquoise lakes (pictured) contain organisms that helped create the oxygen in Earth's atmosphere, and are of interest to industry due to their products?
- Reviewed: Sara Cox (rugby union referee)
- Comment: Attempted to make an interesting hook, if someone has a more interesting proposal that would be nice.
Created by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 13:55, 3 November 2018 (UTC).
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Overall: Thank you. All good. Should the languages be entered into reference templates? Mostly non-English references. Regarding hook interest, can you think of a hook relating to it being home of Stromatolites? Maybe someone has a suggestion. Very good and beautiful image Whispyhistory (talk) 12:29, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- Whispyhistory Er, I am sure the article does currently note languages and the hook does refer to stromatolithes even if it doesn't explicitly mention them. One thing I was wondering, does perchance the article read a bit promotional? I don't think so but I was wondering if others disagree. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:34, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- Also, I've rewritten two claims in the article to conform with better sources; the previously used ones were OK but not top notch for the claims. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:46, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
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that salty, turquoise lakes (pictured) is inhabited by stromatoliths and extremophiles?
- ALT1...
All good, doesn't appear promotional to me. Proposed hook is ok and I have suggested ALT1 if ok with you. Nice article Jo-Jo Eumerus. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:07, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- ALT1 is perhaps a bit too technical for laypersons, and as I was told in another DYK a stromatolith is not a lifeform. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:21, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- ALT2 that Argentina's Ojos de Mar (pond pictured) contains stromatoliths and extremophiles? (caption should just read "A Ojos de Mar pond"? Volcano not visible at thumb size. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:25, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- Still think the first hook is more interesting to laypeople. I agree with removing mention of Aracar from the caption but I don't think we can easily work stromatolithes in. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:18, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Why not? The article says that it contains both. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:49, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Because "interesting" is part of the present-day purpose of DYK and "contain organisms that helped create the oxygen in Earth's atmosphere, and are of interest to industry due to their products?" is much more interesting than "inhabited by stromatoliths and extremophiles" so I'd like to keep it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:59, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Why not? The article says that it contains both. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:49, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Still think the first hook is more interesting to laypeople. I agree with removing mention of Aracar from the caption but I don't think we can easily work stromatolithes in. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:18, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: The lead of the article says "inhabited". Is this correct? Proposed hook is long and one loses concentration half way along, but ALT2 is more catchy, short and precise and clear in the article. Ping me when lead and caption text clarified. Instead of "contains"...could write "is home to". Thanks Whispyhistory (talk) 15:05, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Whispyhistory I've rewritten the lead. As I said before though adding two technical terms is going to make the hook less interesting and not more interesting, so I oppose ALT2. Perhaps my original proposed hook needs a better flow, like so:
- ALT3 that structures which helped create oxygen in the atmosphere today persist in salty, turquoise lakes (pictured)?
- ALT2 that Argentina's Ojos de Mar (pond pictured) contains stromatoliths and extremophiles? (caption should just read "A Ojos de Mar pond"? Volcano not visible at thumb size. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:25, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- ALT2 still reads better but can approve ALT3 too. Amended caption. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:09, 24 November 2018 (UTC)