Template:Did you know nominations/Odin Biron

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:51, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Odin Biron

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• ... that when Minnesotan actor Odin Biron came out, his friend and co-star from top-rating Russian sitcom Interns Ivan Okhlobystin described him as a "pervert" and a "sodomite"?

• ALT1:... that actor Odin Biron played a popular character on the top-rated Russian sitcom Interns, but was largely unknown in his native Minnesota?
• ALT2:... that Minnesotan Odin Biron, a high-profile actor in Russia, has moved back to the U.S. after coming out?
• ALT3:... that Minnesotan actor Odin Biron moved to Moscow speaking almost no Russian but went on to become a popular character on the top-rated Russian sitcom Interns?
• Reviewed: Exempt (2 credits), but will review one or more shortly Jon-Erik Beckjord

Created by OwenBlacker (talk). Self-nominated at 16:15, 15 November 2015 (UTC).

• Article is new enough and long enough. The article is sufficiently cited, and the structure appears neutral. However, the hooks need work. I've stricken Alt 0: it is not acceptable for the main page as it needlessly places a living person in a bad light. I slightly modified the grammar and link specificity in Alt 1, which I think reads the best of the lot, although the second part (his low profile in Minnesota), is not mentioned in the article! Alt 2 is not interesting, and and Alt3 has potential, but may not be accurate: the source simply states he started with three words a week before he left, and the hook implies he got the part in Interns soon after arrival (~2005?), when in fact he joined the cast in 2010. I will approve Alt 1 when is fully mentioned in article, or perhaps a new hook could be proposed. --Animalparty! (talk) 08:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

• I'm not sure repeating someone's words when they strongly believe them is necessarily painting them in a bad light, but fair enough regarding Alt 0; you have a much better grasp of what does and doesn't work well on DYK :o)
  I've added a new sentence to the lead (with a new ref) that bolsters Alt 1, though I'd appreciate help with tweaking the wording if you don't think it quite resolves your concerns. I agree that Alt 2 is pretty uninspiring, but I've tweaked Alt 3 and the corresponding line in the article to make it more readily sourced. I've also linked Interns having somehow failed to find that article before(!!)
  Does that work better, d'you think, @Animalparty:? — OwenBlacker (Talk) 23:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  PS: Thank you BlueMoonset for the reminder to come back to this; sorry everyone for having taken so long about it!

• ALT 3 is good to go. I've slightly edited it for clarity, grammar and reduce non-essential links. --Animalparty! (talk) 06:15, 9 December 2015 (UTC)