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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 20:50, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
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Newsteadia floccosa
- ... that boreal ensign scale is the most common scale insect found in soil in Europe?
Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 07:36, 6 February 2020 (UTC).
Article new enough, long enough, and adequately cited. Hook short enough, interesting enough, and also cited. Copyvio seems fine. QPQ done. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 04:57, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: @Cwmhiraeth: just pinging this one back to the nom page with a query. I'm not sure the article and source exactly match what the hook says. The article (and indeed the source) say it is found across Europe. And separately, the source [1] says that N. floccosa is "the most common species in the collection"
. But the collection only has a limited number of samples, and the source itself does not make the leap from saying it was the most common in the collection to saying it was the most common in Europe overall. Furthermore, the countries where it says it was found in this study are limited to a group in eastern and south-eastern Europe (presumably because they originated in the Collection of the Hungarian Natural History Museum). So without any sources other than this primary source corroborating this fact, and with even this source not really claiming the hook fact, I don't think it's strong enough. Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 19:54, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Amakuru: It was a pretty comprehensive survey, there were 2970 soil samples taken and the scale was found in the 22 countries mentioned in the study and article, which include Eastern, Western, Southern and Northern Europe. How about ALT1? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 21:19, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that in a Europe-wide study, boreal ensign scale was found to be the most common scale insect present in soil?
- Thanks for your reply. As far as I can tell they aren't saying they themselves found the scale in all of those 22 countries, just that according nyo some other source that's where they're found. The study seemingly found them only in Albania, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece, Romania, Montenegro, Slovenia, Sweden and Turkey, but then it admits that the Hungarian collection has tended to focus on collecting soil from Balkan countries in recent years anyway. The ALT1 looks OK, I'll have another look tomorrow anyway. My only lingering concern is over the "Europe-wide" given that far more samples were taken in some areas than others. We don't want to imply that this thing is most common in all areas if it's only in some... Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 23:52, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Amakuru: Since this is getting nowhere, how about ALT2? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:58, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that despite most scale insects sucking sap from plants, the boreal ensign scale lives in soil?
@Cwmhiraeth: apologies, I promised to circle back to this and then didn't do so. Either ALT1 or ALT2 look fine to me, the mention of the study makes it just about accurate enough. Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 11:00, 20 February 2020 (UTC)