Template:Did you know nominations/My Memoir

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 20:56, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

My Memoir

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~~... that My Memoir, by Edith Wilson, has been described as a "self-serving apologia"?~~ Source: Clayton, Bruce, "Our first woman president 'Edith and Woodrow' details the first lady's pivotal role after her husband's stroke".
- ALT1:... that one of the reasons My Memoir was written by Edith Wilson was "to defend the legacy" of her husband, Woodrow Wilson? Source: to defend the legacy of President Wilson

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Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:59, 21 November 2020 (UTC).

Comment Neither of these hooks look great to me. First, many memoirs are self-serving apologia[1] (just look at Wehrmacht generals for a darker example). Second, many of them are written to defend someone's legacy (essentially the same thing from the other POV). (t · c) buidhe 23:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

While it may be common for Nazi generals, it isn't necessarily for First Ladies of the United States, particularly to have their memoirs openly called that. I skimmed Genzlinger's essay and, while interesting, I don't think it's relevant, given that he's bemoaning the "lost art of shutting up", when one becomes "lost in a sea of people you’ve never heard of" "writing uninterestingly about the unexceptional". I wouldn't consider the wife of a President of the United States uninteresting or unexeptional, and Woodrow Wilson is certainly someone that people have heard of last I checked. While it is true that many memoirs defend someone, I think it rare that they defend someone who isn't the author of the autobiography. Of course, I may be completely wrong here, as I am often. Cheers, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:38, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

ALT2 ... that in My Memoir, former First Lady of the United States Edith Wilson detailed how she became Woodrow Wilson's gatekeeper after his stroke, prioritizing his official duties? — Maile (talk) 16:58, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Just an FYI on the subject matter. Edith did what she had to do for her husband and for the country. While it well might be that the doctors advised her to do so, mentioning in the hook, dilutes her somewhat heroic role in keeping the country running.— Maile (talk) 16:58, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:08, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

QPQ done. The entry is long enough, new enough, no Earwig pings, sources are presented neutrally although I find myself wondering whether there are more out there that might have a different idea about what constitutes “historical value”. Regardless what is in the entry seems probably sufficient at this point. I’m in agreement with Buidhe and Maile that it makes the most sense to make the hook something more distinguishing about the book so I’m ticking the most recent proposal. Innisfree987 (talk) 19:57, 24 December 2020 (UTC)