Template:Did you know nominations/Melville Monument, Edinburgh
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Victuallers (talk) 11:14, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
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Melville Monument
- ... that Thomas Babington Macaulay thought the Melville Monument "very elegant, and very much better than the man deserved"?Source: Trevelyan, George Otto (ed.) (1876). Life and Letters of Lord Macaulay. I Harper. p. 109.
5x expanded by CPClegg (talk). Self-nominated at 19:55, 10 July 2021 (UTC).
This article flags as a bit short, unfortunately: 20147 characters when it was at 4512 (requiring 22560 characters prose). I see there has been some instability prior to the expansion; is this related? It does have appropriate citation density. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:46, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
- Forgot to ping CPClegg. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:46, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Sammi Brie, that's odd: the javascript tool's showing me 31,009 for the published article and 38,537 for the plain text. Yes, it did have issues with one persistent vandal before the expansion but since then has been very stable. Thanks for taking a look.CPClegg (talk) 08:46, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
- @CPClegg: Still showing as 20,147 here. Very unusual. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 14:45, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
- CPClegg, Sammi Brie, I just used DYKcheck on the article, and noticed that it was counting the "See also" section, which it isn't supposed to ("See also" is supposed to be a bulleted section per MOS:SEEALSO, so I've added the needed bullet); this takes it down to 20109 prose characters. I'm not sure why the javascript tool is so wildly off from DYKcheck—38537 was the total number of bytes rather than text at the time—but DYKcheck is what we go by. Another 2451 prose characters will be needed to reach a fivefold expansion. (I did check around the vandalism, and 4512 prose characters is the starting point as Sammi Brie notes above.) CPClegg, I hope that won't be a problem! BlueMoonset (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
@Sammi Brie and CPClegg: I'd recommend rejecting the nomination is there isn't an expansion within a few days. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 05:18, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
CPClegg has not edited on Wikipedia for over four weeks, and the article remains too short to qualify for DYK. Marking for closure. Should they return prior to closure and commit to expanding the article within seven days, the nomination can remain open. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:45, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, BlueMoonset, I can't really think of ways to expand the page that aren't rather forced. Perhaps it's best to leave it slide. Thank you all for looking at it, though. If any of you wanted to review the page, that would be excellent. I would hope it's a bit more than Start Class now.CPClegg (talk) 06:25, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
