Template:Did you know nominations/Mark Pepys, 6th Earl of Cottenham

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 22:08, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Mark Pepys, 6th Earl of Cottenham

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... that Lord Cottenham resigned from MI5 during the Second World War, as he did not support the war with Germany?
Sources: 1. Jonathan Pile, Churchill's Secret Enemy (2012), p. 287
2. Nigel West, The A to Z of British Intelligence (2009), p. 113
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Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 04:06, 23 December 2022 (UTC).

Hi Moonraker (talk), review follows: article created 22 December and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources for the subject matter; I found no issues with overly close paraphrasing in a spot check on the sources; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in article and checks out to source cited; a QPQ has been carried out. I added a little on his short career with the yeomanry. My only query is if you have a source for the list of his books? - Dumelow (talk) 14:05, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, Dumelow. This point has come up before, and the answer is that books cite themselves. See Template:Did you know nominations/Julian Moynahan. The dictum of Vanamonde is that “Books are acceptable sources for the content within them, and are therefore acceptable sources for their existence, when they have complete publication information.” She has suggested including ISBNs or OCLCs, but ISBNs do not seem to exist for any of these books. I have just searched and could only find two OCLCs, have added those. So we have the best info I could find. Moonraker (talk) 15:04, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi Moonraker, fair enough. I'm sure I've seen it go the other way, but perhaps that was at FAC or somewhere - Dumelow (talk) 16:11, 23 December 2022 (UTC)