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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:56, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

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Malcolm Kirk

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5x expanded by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 07:54, 10 May 2017 (UTC).

  • DYK renominated for better clarity. Age, length, QPQ requirements met, well referenced, and with no copyvio issues. Good for promotion. jojo@nthony (talk) 08:24, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
  • jojo@nthony, when I run DYKcheck it says that this does not qualify as a recent 5x prose expansion, and since it had 1462 prose characters prior to the recent expansion and has 6017 prose characters now, a 5x expansion would be 7310 characters; it's just a bit over 4x at the moment. The C of E, it looks like you need another 1293 prose characters to reach the required 5x mark. Please let us know whether you think you can manage that much expansion. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:47, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
  • I've been without internet for a few days so I have only just seen this. I have mae some expansions and will try to add some more over the coming days. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 22:37, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
  • The C of E, DYKcheck gives 6851 prose characters; you're still short 459 of where you need to be. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:37, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
  • New reviewer needed now that article meets 5x expansion requirement; the newly added material needs to be checked. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:15, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
@Tachs:, Could you do the honours please? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 06:57, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

@The C of E: @BlueMoonset: Newly added content was checked for copyvio and it passed the check cleanly. Article is now clearly 5x expanded. The rest as per previous review. Good for promotion. jojo@nthony (talk) 07:52, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

  • @The C of E: Following several discussions on the talk page about negative hooks, could we instead have something like
  • ALT1 ... that professional wrestling started to lose popularity in the United Kingdom after the death of "King Kong" Kirk in the ring? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:34, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
  • No, I don't like that one. I prefer the original as the proposed alt is less hooky. Any hook is always going to have a reference to death in it as that is a main part of the article. @Tachs: could you restore the tick please? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 07:00, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
  • I don't mind restoring the tick as there was nothing wrong with the original hook from a DYK rules perspective. See this discussion for why I thought the hook should be changed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:04, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
    • I understand what you were thinking. But there is a big difference between this and that. That was a suicide, this was an unfortunate natural death that just so happened to coincide with a match finish. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:23, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
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