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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:30, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
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Makasib
[edit]... that Sheikh Morteza Ansari (d.1864) has two notable works, Makasib and Faraed al-Osul currently used as textbooks on Shia law?
5x expanded by Homiho (talk). Self-nominated at 22:10, 29 November 2016 (UTC).
- This nomination was made 10 days after expansion began, but I will IAR for a DYK newcomer. (Please note on your next submission that the article should be nominated within 7 days of creation or the beginning of expansion.) 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits.
- I did some copyediting on the article, but am unable to figure out the "Corrections" section. Could you please copyedit these sentences so they make sense in English:
There are many corrections made on the book of Makasib. One of the corrections is relation to Shaykh Ansari Congress. The first Volume published in 1415 lunar hijrah and other volumes namely vol2 till vol6 gradually published until 1420 lunar hijrah. This publication written out of one transcript and six published texts. The other correction is to bibliographical information as follow:Hosein Amr Allahi and Muhammad Reza Fakir as inverstigators. The book has published by institution of Islamic publication in Qom.
- There is a "clarification needed" tag in the lead which needs to be addressed, and I added a similar tag in the paragraph under "Editions": were these editions published, or just completed?
- Regarding the hook, I think you should focus on this article's subject first, like:
- ALT1:
... that Makasib and Faraed al-Osul by Sheikh Morteza Ansari (d. 1864) are currently used as textbooks on Shia law? - Please note, however, that you are citing a 2000 source and saying the textbook is "currently" used. Also, you don't say where the textbook is being used. Would you have another, more updated source that could confirm these facts? Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 23:02, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: Per your request, I made some changes to the "correction" section. I'll handle with other points, too. Mhhossein talk 12:08, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- By the way, what's the clarification tag in the lead meant for? Mhhossein talk 12:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Per this source which is updated in 2011, the book's "the subject matter of the fourth and final (nehāʾī) level of the curriculum" in the Shiʿa seminaries. If we assume that the book's written in the last years of Ansari's life, i.e. almost 1864, it dates back to almost 150 years ago. So, can we have such an ALT:
- ALT2: ... that Sheikh Morteza Ansari's Makasib, authored more than 150 years ago, is still taught in Shia seminaries? --Mhhossein talk 13:24, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you, @Mhhossein:, that's very helpful. I removed the clarification needed tag (someone else put it there) and added your cite to the lead. I did some more editing on the Corrections paragraph; would you mind looking it over to see if it's okay? Your ALT2 is very good; I would just round it off as "a century and a half ago"; a few years doesn't matter much. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:30, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: You're welcome. Thanks for your edits, the "Corrections" subsection seems OK to my eyes. Do as you wish regarding the hook, "a few years doesn't matter much." Mhhossein talk 07:45, 25 January 2017 (UTC)