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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by HalfGig talk 20:16, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Karolina Olsson

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Olsson just days after she awoke from her sleep.

* ... that the Swedish woman Karolina Olsson (pictured) purportedly stayed in a constant state of hibernation and sleep for 32 years?

Created by BabbaQ (talk). Self nominated at 11:54, 1 January 2015 (UTC).

  • New enough, long enough, certainly interesting, but all four references are in Swedish, so maybe someone with Swedish language skills needs to help here? (Writing this comment mostly in hope of catching the attention of someone suitable.) Are there any English-language sources on the Karolina Olsson story?Penny Richards (talk) 02:25, 2 January 2015 (UTC)Penny Richards
  • I will certainly translate the sources.--BabbaQ (talk) 09:10, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
  • @Penny Richards: I have made improvements. Ping me if there are further issues. Thanks!--BabbaQ (talk) 11:20, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Two of the new English-language sources are a website and a livejournal entry; still can't assess the Swedish-language sources. This entry needs a Swedish reviewer.Penny Richards (talk) 16:07, 2 January 2015 (UTC)Penny Richards
@Penny Richards:,Use Google translate.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:09, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
  • An extraordinary story like this really needs reliable published sources--and I'm not familiar enough with Swedish-language sources to assess reliability. As for the English-language sources: Fortean Times is fine as a historical publication; as a self-published source, livejournal is not a reliable source, and the neutrality of the Theparanormalguide.com as a source might also be questioned. I hope someone sees this discussion and can help with the Swedish sources. I think you did a good job making an entry using the sources available, but for now I can't quite give this very interesting new article a checkmark for DYK.Penny Richards (talk) 16:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)Penny Richards
  • OK, thank you for doing an initial review anyway:)--BabbaQ (talk) 17:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Removed the two sourced after your suggestion. I added book references.--BabbaQ (talk) 10:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
  • It isn't necessary to know Swedish to review Swedish-language sources, especially with Google Translate on hand. This subject is mostly covered by Swedish-language journals and papers, and looks adequately sourced. More information (sometimes conflicting with what you have) can be found in this English-language book: The Mary Celeste Syndrome. I would remove the Paranormal Guide from the External links as a questionable source. Please let me know what you want to do about the English book source, and then we'll proceed with the nomination. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 23:15, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
  • I have removed the external link. I think personally that the article is adequately sourced now and just ping me if there are any further issues. Thanks for the review.--BabbaQ (talk) 01:07, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
  • I will however take a look at the book source on friday when I am infront of an computer. But the nom could move forward still I believe.--BabbaQ (talk) 01:10, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
  • I have now taken a look at the source and the article. And I think the article is ready to proceed, personally.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:18, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
I suggested the new English-language book source because the original reviewer asked for more source verification. Since this source has more to say on the subject, I added information from it to the article. My only question now is about the hook. Why are you saying "hibernation and sleep"? Hibernation was one doctor's opinion. The hook would be a lot hookier if you just said she slept all that time.
Regarding the credits, why are you listing every single editor who made the most minor of changes to the page??? Yoninah (talk) 18:07, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
OK, thank you for your assistance then and I think it did indeed improve the article :) Also I changed the hook after your suggestion. About the credits I always appreciate everyone who helps me with improving articles that I have created. I see it as a nice gesture. Ping me if you have more questions etc.
  • ALT1: ... that the Swedish woman Karolina Olsson (pictured) purportedly stayed in a constant state of sleep for 32 years?--BabbaQ (talk) 23:15, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
  • OK. New enough, long enough, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. ALT1 hook ref verified and cited inline. Image is public domain. QPQ done. ALT1 good to go. But the credits really are excessive. Yoninah (talk) 23:31, 10 January 2015 (UTC)