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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 20:13, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

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Jan Kochanowski

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Jan Kochanowski on a 1884 drawing
Jan Kochanowski on a 1884 drawing

Improved to Good Article status by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 03:10, 5 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jan Kochanowski; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Very impressive job on getting this thing to good article status! However, I can not stand these types of DYK hooks. Yes, he was clearly influential in early Slavic poetry, but that is not a cool, clickable fact that gets the reader interested in learning more. Are there any neat tidbits of his life or work? Perhaps the fact he dabbled in epics and humor? ... that he was a journalist before journalism? ... that he created Polish-language verse forms (and explain what those are for the layman)? Lots of cool aspects that would make for a more convincing hook, in my opinion. Thanks for the wonderful article, however! Why? I Ask (talk) 07:04, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Ditto.
Nihil novi (talk) 19:02, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
@Why? I Ask: I beg to disagree those are not interesting hooks. But I have no problem adapting some of your ideas into alt hooks for the passing admin to consider. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:16, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
ALT2a: ... that Polish Renaissance poet Jan Kochanowski (pictured), considered one of the most influential early Slavic poets, wrote epic poetry, light-hearted poems, drama, as well as journalistic and political commentary?
ALT2b: ... that Polish Renaissance poet Jan Kochanowski (pictured) wrote epic poetry, light-hearted poems, drama, as well as journalistic and political commentary?
ALT3: ... that some of Polish Renaissance poet Jan Kochanowski (pictured) works can be seen as journalistic commentaries, before the advent of modern journalism?
ALT4: ... that Polish Renaissance poet Jan Kochanowski (pictured) has been called the founder of modern Polish poetry?
I'll also ping User:Nihil novi, who may be interested in this topic and who perhaps may suggest some elegant alt hooks as well. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:16, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Thank you. I'd see merit to combining the proposals, perhaps along lines such as:
"... that Polish Renaissance poet Jan Kochanowski (pictured) – considered "the founding father of Polish literature" – wrote threnodies, the first Polish-language tragedy, and oft-cited epigrams?"
Nihil novi (talk) 04:57, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Nice, I like it - we can call it ALT5. Now we just need to get the reviewer's tick. @Why? I Ask: --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:53, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
I like ALT 5, and if you're happy with it, that's even more awesome! Again, congrats on the GA. Why? I Ask (talk) 04:02, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
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