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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:02, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

James Stratford (publisher)

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Fleet Prison
Fleet Prison

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 19:59, 4 December 2018 (UTC).

Added Alt1a. Did you get that he was jailed because he was bankrupt? I think it is interesting because we don't put people in jail for debt any more as that makes it difficult for them to pay. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:24, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
The interest here is rather subjective, to be honest. I suppose it could work, but it's not the most interesting part about his life, in my opinion. What about his part-works? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:17, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
"The interest here is rather subjective". What does that mean? I think interest is always subjective. I personally think that the hook is interesting because it's so unusual. SL93 (talk) 03:23, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
Honestly I'm not sure if it's really considered "unusual". It is now and apparently wasn't back then, but I'm not sure if readers would know that. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:35, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
I'm guessing the readers won't know that, which I believe makes it a perfect hook because it gets the article read. SL93 (talk) 03:38, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Seems the nominator and I can't come to an agreement here, requesting another reviewer to give their thoughts. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:15, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

  • This article is new enough and long enough. The image is in the public domain, the hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. I find the use of the prison for debtors interesting, - Mr Micawber spent some time there if I remember correctly. A QPQ has been done so this should be good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:25, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
  • @SL93: I agree with Narutolovehinata5—this is not a "perfect hook". If we're talking about 19th-century England, I immediately think of Charles Dickens novels and debtors' prison. If this doesn't appear in the image slot (which it may well not), it has nothing to carry it. @Philafrenzy: and @Whispyhistory: can we have a hookier hook please? Yoninah (talk) 18:21, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Nice. Let's go with ALT2b. Offline hook ref AGF and cited inline. Rest of review per Cwmhiraeth. ALT2b good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:30, 5 January 2019 (UTC)