Template:Did you know nominations/Helvis of Ramla

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... that Helvis of Ramla was the progenitor of the powerful crusader Ibelin family?

Source: Hans E. Mayer, "Carving up Crusaders: The Early Ibelins and Ramlas", in Outremer: Studies in the History of the Crusading Kingdom of Jerusalem Presented to Joshua Prawer, ed. Benjamin Z. Kedar, Hans E. Mayer, and R.C. Smail (Yad Izhak Ben-Zvi Institute, 1982), p. 111.

Created by Adam Bishop (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Adam Bishop (talk) 23:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC).

For a long time I have been considering creating this article. Helvis is mentioned rather frequently by the leading historians of the crusades, especially by Mayer. The reason I did not create the article, however, is that I could not find evidence of in-depth coverage. All I could gather was genealogical information, and this is all I see in the article now: a list of her family (parents, brothers, husbands, sons) in which she is covered as a link between various men. Is anything known about Helvis's actions? Surtsicna (talk) 13:22, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I was thinking about creating it for a long time as well, and I had the same problem. I wasn't sure I should list it here, since you're right, there's not much about her aside from genealogy. The most that seems to have been written about her is by Hans Mayer, about the possible dates of her birth and marriages. I will see if I can squeeze any more information about the sources I have at hand. Adam Bishop (talk) 23:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)