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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:11, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

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Heartless (Kanye West song)

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2009 portrait of Barack Obama
2009 portrait of Barack Obama

Improved to Good Article status by Kyle Peake (talk). Self-nominated at 06:33, 7 October 2021 (UTC).

I began reviewing, and will finish later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Interesting song told with love to detail (even what he wore at a certain event ...), on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I don't known why you don't simply say: "It is set in common time, and A minor". The hook idea - mentioning the Obama seems good, but I see no reason to picture the well-known president again, - better the singer, no? My take:
ALT2a: ... that Kanye West performed his song "Heartless" for Barack Obama's first inauguration at the Be the Change Youth Ball, with altered lyrics?
Let's leave some curiosity for what was altered. Is the ball well-known, or could we just say "a youth ball"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:19, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt I do agree that it was too much detail initially being specific about how the lyrics were altered and the ball is not the same for every inauguration, therefore I proposed ALT3 with both of these edited if that looks fine to you? In the actual article prose, I haven't simplified things to what you mentioned since it should be made clear that A minor is the key and the picture of Obama can be kept because it's from the performance's year of 2009 and the presidency most certainly aged him over his eight years. --K. Peake 16:48, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! - Most readers I know would know what common time and A minor mean, and those who don't and click will get to know that common time is a time signature, and A minor a key, so I believe it's a bit over-explaining. In a Beethoven symphony, you'd just say "in A major". Just for consideration. - For about the same reason, how about:
ALT3a:... that Kanye West performed "Heartless" at a youth ball for Barack Obama's first inauguration with altered lyrics?
because Obama really doesn't need another link ;)
I approve the ALT3s, but suggest - to the prep builder - not to take the image. We have many more images suggested than we can take, and such a familiar one isn't really DYK material, imho. Next time, please word a later ALT here below the nomination, or the concersation makes little sense. Thank you for the music! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:08, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

ALT 3a To Prep 7, without image. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:11, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

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