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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:51, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

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Harris DeVane

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Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self-nominated at 02:12, 25 December 2017 (UTC).

  • Note that I just revamped this entirely, including a all-new, all-singing, all-dancing hook compared to its original submission, because the muse konked me over the head with a second article to add to it. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:17, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Review:

Disclaimer: I have never reviewed a DYK. I have submitted a DYK and it seems that I have been exempted from QPQ because of lack of prior DYK. However, in the spirit of QPQ, I am starting a review but request assistance from anyone reading this or anyone who is seeking to do a QPQ review.

Criteria Article 1: new: OK!
Criteria Article 2: long enough (1500 characters or more) - OK!
Criteria Article 3a. neutral - OK!
3b. inline citations - OK!
3c. copyright violations - ***** no conclusion yet
Criteria Hook 1: format (length and formatting) - OK!
Criteria Hook 2: content - ***** no conclusion yet
Criteria Other 1: QPQ - not sure, will ask Criteria Other 2: photo - not applicable becuase no photo so OK!

not done yet

Alternative hook ideas: consider a DYK about Harris DeVane's DYK that he was a peanut farmer, DYK that he was the first winner of a race at the Atlanta Motor Speedway's new racetrack configuration, DYK that he was a winner but failed to qualify in 1999 because of lack of speed. The current hook is, paraphrased, DYK that racecar driver ______ tried to debut at a race. That might not be too exciting if one assumes that all racecar drivers must have a first race in their careers.

Also I did not review the 1998 NAPA 500. Vanguard10 (talk) 04:24, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Vanguard10, to check for copyright violations, you can use this useful tool. The reason that the hook is a little more bland than it could be is to try to work two articles (which have both been recently created) into one hook. I agree that peanut farmer to NASCAR driver is interesting, though, so perhaps The Bushranger could also work that into this hook as a second fact about DeVane.
Also, Vanguard10, since you didn't review the second article, I will: New, in time, long enough, each paragraph has at least one citation, hook fact is present and has an inline citation that checks out, no apparent copyvios, QPQ is done. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:53, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
That is a good suggestion, and I've added a bit about him being a peanut farmer to the hook. "Winner to DNQ" wouldn't work as that was in two different series, and (as mentioned) I originally had "first winner on new configuration" before the second article jumped into my mind and demanded to be written. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:55, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
Vanguard10 & The Bushranger, just going to finish up the review. No apparent copyvios in the Harris DeVane article, and the QPQ has been done. The fact about him being a peanut farmer checks out with an inline citation. Only issue is that his article doesn't actually say that the 1998 NAPA 500 was his attempted Winston Cup Series debut; it sort of implies it, but should be made explicit. --Usernameunique (talk) 16:03, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
@Usernameunique: I've tweaked the wording a bit so that that's clearer. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:12, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
All set. --Usernameunique (talk) 20:46, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but where does the source say it was his NASCAR Winston Cup Series debut? Yoninah (talk) 00:16, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: The answer is "where it shows it was the first time he had ever attempted a Cup Series race". However I've also added another reference that includes the explicit wording "debut". - The Bushranger One ping only 00:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Great, thanks. Restoring tick per Usernameunique's review. Yoninah (talk) 00:41, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
*Reopening nomination due to the double hook being split into two separate hooks per discussion at WT:DYK#Prep 5 - Harris DeVane. The new Harris DeVane hook has been placed in the prep set. Here is the new hook for the 1998 NAPA 500 nomination:
  • ALT1: ... that over seven hours of rain delays resulted in the 1998 NAPA 500 becoming the first night race held at Atlanta Motor Speedway?
  • ALT1 hook refs verified and cited inline. Rest of review above. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
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