Template:Did you know nominations/Harold H. Piffard

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 14:44, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Harold H. Piffard

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... ~~that Harold H. Piffard, a British artist and illustrator, became interested in aviation and, in 1909, flew in an aircraft he built himself?~~ Source: Kirkpatrick, Robert J. (11 July 1905). "Harold Piffard". The Men Who Drew For Boys (And Girls): 101 Forgotten Illustrators of Children's Books: 1844-1970. London: Robert J. Kirkpatrick. pp. 355–362. , Manton, Colin (2006). "Harold Piffard of Bedford Park, Artist and Aviator Extraordinaire". Brentford & Chiswick Local History Journal. 15. Archived from the original on 1 November 2019. Retrieved 1 November 2019. , https://www.theknohlcollection.com/portfolio/detail/loneliness/ , https://www.ukairfieldguide.net/airfields/North-Ealing
- ALT1: ... that an artist tried to fly on a Hummingbird? Source: https://brentfordandchiswicklhs.org.uk/harold-piffard-of-bedford-park-artist-and-aviator-extraordinaire/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tiandi yinyang jiaohuan dalefu

Improved to Good Article status by Chiswick Chap (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 13:09, 21 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Harold H. Piffard; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Starting review. Zeete (talk) 13:11, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke: The article appeared in bold on the Main Page on November 11, 2020, see Template:POTD/2020-11-11. But Picture of the Day is not mentioned in WP:DYKCRIT, so it should be fine.
- The ALT0 hook needs citations in the lede after "he built himself". In ref 2, it says he had helpers to build it. Should the article and the hook be slightly modified from "built himself"? maybe "designed"?
- Consider using "an artist" in ALT1, a great quirky hook.

Thanks, Zeete (talk) 13:52, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

I'll ask @Chiswick Chap: to see if it's a good idea to alter the wording for the first hook. Changed the wording of Alt1. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:20, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Review: Good Article on March 18, long enough (5,710 per DYK check), cited, neutral, Earwig reported ok (Violation unlikely, 23.1%, long quote), QPQ done, ALT1 interesting, cited, length checked ok.
- @Chiswick Chap, MyCatIsAChonk, and Onegreatjoke: ALT0 is not cited and lede phrase, "an aircraft he built himself", does not seem to reflect the Aviator section details. If this is resolved shortly, the nomination could be considered for WP:DYKAPRIL.

Thanks, Zeete (talk) 12:59, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Suggest we go with ALT1 for the reasons you state. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:11, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Striking ALT0 per above
- Good to go. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 13:53, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Just one thing: ~~The image caption says, "Piffard in his hand-built aircraft". Is that intentional? Perhaps British English?~~ Bruxton (talk) 14:37, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

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