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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:42, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Friedrich Entress

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  • ... that Nazi doctor Friedrich Entress introduced the practice at Auschwitz of killing prisoners by injecting lethal doses of phenol directly into the heart?

5x expanded by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 22:48, 18 October 2018 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Recommend a slight streamlining of the hook, see below Catrìona (talk) 05:00, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

    • ALT1:... that Nazi doctor Friedrich Entress introduced the practice of killing Auschwitz prisoners with phenol injections?
    • ALT2:... that Nazi doctor Friedrich Entress introduced the practice of killing prisoners at Auschwitz by injecting phenol into the heart? (not sure he was the first to kill with phenol) Philafrenzy (talk) 10:59, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Entress introduced the method in Auschwitz. It was being performed at other camps by other Nazi physicians.[1]. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:16, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I saw that but the source says he was the first to inject directly into the heart, not the first to kill there by phenol, although he might have been that too. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:56, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
@Philafrenzy:. Correct. Phenol was already being used by injection into veins.
    • ALT3:... that Nazi doctor Friedrich Entress organised and administered phenol injections directly into the hearts of Auschwitz prisoners?

Whispyhistory (talk) 14:53, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

  • Philafrenzy, I'll be happy to sign off on the last hook, but you have to do one thing in the article: tweak that one sentence. Ping me when you've looked at it, please? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 04:05, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Drmies that was Kater's description. I took the word "illegal" to mean irregular or ad hoc in some way. Someone may be able to add more when it is on the main page. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:22, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Philafrenzy, sure, but that's not optimal. I see the book now, and I think what is meant is that in June 1939 the SS was operating illegally in Poland, which is quite different from the suggestion that there were illegal elements inside the SS, which is what the sentence led me to believe. I am going to rephrase this sentence a bit and hope you will look over it. Drmies (talk) 15:22, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Any operations of the SS in Poland at any time would be illegal would they not? I still think it may mean irregular formations in some way, however, the rewording is fine. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:13, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Philafrenzy yes, but it's precisely the time scale that's not clear from the source--before the invasion was over, sure; I could not, however, find much (or any) information on clandestine SS operations before September, or support for groups like what this Nazi was in. Anyway, I'm glad we found a way around it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:55, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Unless Philafrenzy objects to my rephrasing of that one sentence, this is now good to go. Drmies (talk) 15:26, 26 October 2018 (UTC)