Template:Did you know nominations/Eva Duldig

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 04:49, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Eva Duldig

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Duldig in 1962

~~... that even though Eva Duldig was held by Australia in an internment camp as an enemy alien from ages two to four, she represented it at Wimbledon two decades later?~~ Source: Eva de Jong-Duldig, meanwhile – once she arrived in Australia – lived for two years (1940-1942) in an internment camp near Tatura in Victoria. The Australian government ultimately released her family
- ALT1: ... that even though Eva Duldig was held by Australia in an internment camp for two years during WWII, she later represented the country at Wimbledon? Source: same
- ALT2: ... that even though Eva Duldig was held by Australia at Tatura internment camp for two years during WWII, she later represented the country at Wimbledon? Source: same
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Nominated by Schwede66 on behalf of an IP editor as requested at WT:DYK. ALT0 is as per the IP's request; Alt1 is by Schwede as "enemy alien" in the source refers to what happened to Jews in Singapore after the Duldig family had left there.

The copyright of the first image (right) should be ok for Wikipedia but I suggest that a copyright expert comments on it. The drawing is from the 1940s by Karl Duldig (1902–1986). I presume that the copyright sits with the family and his granddaughter is thus able to release this under a free license. The second image (left) is definitely with an appropriate license. Moved to mainspace by User:HitroMilanese but drafted by 2603:7000:2143:8500:CD4B:DD83:2234:A6CF (talk). Nominated by Schwede66 (talk) at 19:13, 29 August 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - n
Other problems: - overcited

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: - Not done
Overall: Way to many citations. Some close paraphrasing that should be copyedited. No preference on the photos --evrik ^(talk) 01:16, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your note on my talk page, evrik. You may have seen that I have nominated this on behalf of an IP. My guess is that the IP is keeping an eye on WT:DYK where they requested this, so they will (eventually) see your feedback. I would prefer for the IP to deal with the issues. It was me who put all the photos up for deletion and this process takes a week on Commons. Hence, I suggest we reconvene in a week's time and see whether the IP has shown up. If not, I'll see whether I can deal with this. If this is going to go somewhere, I will provide a QPQ. I don't agree with your assessment on hook interest; I reckon it's a fabulous hook fact! Schwede 66 03:39, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Drive-by comment, but I disagree that this article is "overcited". There is no maximum quantity of citations that an article can have - generally, the guideline is no more than 3 inline citations in a row, and the article contains up to 4 consecutive footnotes. However, I don't see how exactly this is a problem for DYK, unless these sources don't constitute significant coverage, are used to verify random facts, or something else. Epicgenius (talk) 14:46, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

@Schwede66: Thank you. @Epicgenius: If the only remaining issue is the citations, I'll let that go. There are however, other issues. --evrik ^(talk) 02:07, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Also, for what it's worth, the hook is pretty interesting to me. I'd personally reword it like this though:

ALT3: ... that Eva Duldig, who was held by Australia at Tatura internment camp during WWII, later represented the country at Wimbledon? Epicgenius (talk) 14:48, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Hook three is acceptable. --evrik ^(talk) 02:07, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Overcitation, if it ever was an issue, has been dealt with. I shall throw in a QPQ: Earth Goddess (sculpture) (the Earth Goddess article). The photos haven't been deleted yet. I shall have a look at close paraphrasing and take the necessary actions. Schwede 66 08:48, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
I've dealt with close paraphrasing. Schwede 66 09:54, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

--evrik ^(talk) 17:16, 6 September 2022 (UTC)