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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:30, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Eustace Balfour

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Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self nominated at 11:11, 23 June 2014 (UTC).

  • New enough, long enough, very well-written and within policy. All the hooks are great. The main hook however lacks a direct citation. Everything else is good. Impressive work. Yakikaki (talk) 09:42, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Excellent, good to go now! Yakikaki (talk) 11:37, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Although the hook is sourced, its expansion in the article body, namely the statement Her brother the 3rd Lord Salisbury, was three times Prime Minister before being succeeded in 1903 by Eustace's elder brother Arthur Balfour is not, and I think it ought to be before this one is promoted. Gatoclass (talk) 15:35, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Gatoclass, I have added an explicit ref as requested. (And corrected an embarrassing typo. Arthur became PM in 1902, not 1903). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:56, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Hmmm, not sure about the reliability of that website, it doesn't cite any references that I can see. Do you have an alternative? Gatoclass (talk) 06:02, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
@Gatoclass: Hmm Indeed :)
This the sort of data which is readily available in the genealogical volumes of the toffs, such as Debrett's Peerage. I don't have a copy of Debrett's, and of the old peerage guides now in the public domain, those that I found such as this one don't make the linkage explicit. That's why I think that Cracroft's is useful, because it is sufficiently up-to-date to demonstrate the family tree.
However, I appreciate the RS concerns, so I think that the simplest solution is to cite the ODNB article on his wife, which covers this. I have just done so in this edit.
I have access to the DNB through a library, but it is inaccessible to most people, which is why I prefer using more readily-accessible sources. But I don't think there is any argument about its reliability.
Does that wrap things up? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:38, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
The hook itself is sourced, I just thought it might be nice to have the details sourced as well, and you've since added a couple of sources, so I think that should be sufficient. Thanks for your patience. Gatoclass (talk) 11:49, 2 July 2014 (UTC)