Template:Did you know nominations/Dasher Troy

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:46, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Dasher Troy

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~~... that baseball player Dasher Troy (pictured) hit a game-winning home run in 1888 after his manager complied with a request to bring him a beer from the bar beneath the grandstand?~~

Reviewed: Harper Court

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nominated at 21:13, 8 July 2014 (UTC).

The article was expanded well over 5x and is long enough, with good referencing throughout. The hook is very interesting, but I see a couple of issues upon reading through the source through the Library of Congress website [1]. Apparently, Troy agreed voluntarily to abstain from drinking as a condition for playing on the manager's team that year; it doesn't read like the manager had a universal policy against drinking. Also, the source uses the phrase "clear the bases", and I think that we should put that in quotes here. Otherwise, I checked a few other references and found no other problems to report. We could add another citation for the sentence about the home run, to ensure that the hook itself is sourced. Very funny story, and I think any baseball fans who come across this DYK would be amused by it. Sadly, the image provides no evidence that it was published before 1923, as required for the license to be valid, so I don't think it's useable on the Main Page. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:28, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. If you scan down on the image page, you'll see that it is a cropped image. The prior uncropped image shows that it was originally published July 8, 1886. So the image is public domain. I'll check on your other issues shortly. Cbl62 (talk) 23:09, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

The other issues you raised have now been addressed in the article. Glad that you found the story funny. 19th century baseball is filled with these types of characters and stories. Cbl62 (talk) 23:13, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Let me suggest:

... that baseball player Dasher Troy (pictured) hit a game-winning home run in 1888 after his manager fulfilled his request for a beer from the bar beneath the field's grandstand?

However, there's one thing in the article that needs to be cleared up, which is that it doesn't say where or when this occurred. First he's taking the pledge, and then suddenly in the next sentence, "Finally" he asks for a beer. What game? When? Where? EEng (talk) 04:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you EEnng. I think your proposed alt is more elegantly worded. I hadn't thought the "when and where" were needed, but I've now answered those questions in the body of the article. Cbl62 (talk) 15:49, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Looks fine. We've had a whole lot of drunk-ballplayer articles recently -- are you planning to cover the entire history of baseball dipsomania? EEng (talk) 21:28, 10 July 2014 (UTC) P.S. I've struck ALT0 since I think we've agreed we want ALT1.

My comments, and those of EEng, all appear to have been taken care off, so this should be ready now. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:06, 10 July 2014 (UTC)