Template:Did you know nominations/Daniel Sackheim
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Mentoz86 (talk) 10:42, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Daniel Sackheim
[edit]- ... that television producer and director Daniel Sackheim has won one Primetime Emmy Award and been nominated for two more?
- Reviewed: Laura Basuki
- Comment: Previously unsourced BLP
Created/expanded by Grapple X (talk). Self nom at 15:26, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Nice work cleaning up and expanding the article. However, while I'm a bit unfamiliar with BLPs at DYK, I think this article should be at the required 1,500 characters (per Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide#Review the article(s)). Currently it is at 1,068 characters. Thoughts? Ruby 2010/2013 19:23, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- The unsourced BLP only requires a 2x expansion rather than a 5x expansion, but the 1,500 character minimum applies to all DYKs, whether initially created or newly expanded. Since it started at 223 characters, it needs closer to 7x; at 1,068 characters now, it still needs a minimum of 432 additional characters to hit 1,500. It also needs not to be a stub (which it is) or stublike (which it also still is), which may require more text than the minimum. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:17, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Since expanded it out to 1692 B, and included a few filmography tables to add some extra material which won't be counted in that tally. How does it look now? GRAPPLE X 00:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- The general length is fine, and I think the article now avoids stublike, but there is more work to be done: some of the new material is inaccurate. The claim that he has retired is not substantiated by the source, which just says he's gone back to photography after years away from it. It also says that he is (not was) Executive Producer of The Finder, a show that was canceled by Fox only a month ago, so this would have been written earlier in 2012. Absent more definitive sourced information, I think the retirement claim cannot stand, and I'm not entirely sure that the photography information belongs either: it is from a primary source, but I think a secondary one should be found before it can be considered to be a notable (and successful) career pursuit of his. Although this would take you down to around 1500, the Executive Producer gig is a step up from normal producing—I don't know whether he was also a showrunner, but that should be easy enough to find out—and is probably worth adding in to the tune of a sentence or two. Now I'll turn this back over to Ruby2010. :-) BlueMoonset (talk) 02:07, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Have removed the photography and retirement stuff, which removes all of the primary material. Have found a brief mention of his first directing job in a cameraman's autobiography (don't ask), so I've added that in, as well as the bit about The Finder that you mentioned. Article's still above 1500 with those additions. GRAPPLE X 15:37, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
I made some edits to the article, mostly to put the Emmy win first, before the nominations. I've done enough work that I'm taking myself out of further reviewing, hence the icon. The info from the cameraman is interesting, but it kind of takes over the paragraph. I'm not sure whether you want to contrast it with his Emmy win a few years later: he directed that first episode around the end of 1990/beginning of 1991, and won an Emmy for directing in 1994 (for the 1993/94 season, I imagine). But that's nothing needed for DYK, just if you take the article further, in which case a more strictly chronological arrangement might also be nice. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
