Template:Did you know nominations/Cypress Creek Middle High School
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:11, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
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Cypress Creek Middle High School
- ... that when Cypress Creek Middle High School opened in Florida in 2017, Grades 6–12 were combined in one school to save money? Source: “We couldn’t afford to build the new middle school at the same time, so we open this new high school as a middle-high school...,” — Chris Williams, Pasco County School District.(ref: "Pasco schools begins Cypress Creek rezoning", WTVT, October 7, 2019)
- ALT1:... that Cypress Creek Middle High School has combined Grades 6–12 in one shared building to save money?
- ALT2:... that Cypress Creek Middle High School has combined Grades 6–12 (equivalent ages 11–18) sharing the same building?
Created by JGHowes (talk). Self-nominated at 21:18, 5 December 2019 (UTC).
Would it be possible to propose a different hook here? Right now, the hook as written doesn't really sound interesting to a broad audience. From what I can tell, the thought was that it's a combined middle and high school? If that's the case, perhaps the hook can be reworded to emphasize that? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:30, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, I've now added an Alt 1 hook. JGHowes talk 01:40, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
- That sounds clearer, but honestly I'm not sure if the hook appeals to non-American readers, since the definitions of what grades are can vary from country to country. In addition, middle schools and high schools being combined into one school is not uncommon in most of the world, from what I recall. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:05, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
- One more try with an 'Alt2' hook. JGHowes talk 00:52, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- It's much clearer, but again I'm not really so sure about its appeal. I think it might be a good idea to ask for a second opinion from another editor on if it's interesting to a broad audience. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:51, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- I don't see a hook in the nominated article. All the things you are discussing in the hooks are commonplace to newly opened schools, and non-traditional groupings of grades are occurring nationwide due to lack of building capital and proper effective stewardship by local school districts of the taxpayer's money. John from Idegon (talk) 09:29, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- It's much clearer, but again I'm not really so sure about its appeal. I think it might be a good idea to ask for a second opinion from another editor on if it's interesting to a broad audience. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:51, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- One more try with an 'Alt2' hook. JGHowes talk 00:52, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- That sounds clearer, but honestly I'm not sure if the hook appeals to non-American readers, since the definitions of what grades are can vary from country to country. In addition, middle schools and high schools being combined into one school is not uncommon in most of the world, from what I recall. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:05, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
- I concur with Narutolovehinata5 that this needs a new hook, but unlike John from Idegon, I do see one potential hook fact. On the positive side, the article is new and long enough. QPQ needed. @JGHowes: I am going to make my own suggestion for a hook. Ping me when you have a QPQ: Raymie (t • c) 20:18, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that Cypress Creek Middle High School, opened in 2017, will become strictly a high school with the opening of an adjacent middle school campus in 2020? Source (WFTS)
- That's certainly better writing, but aren't we looking for things differentiting? The way this school opened and operated for its first few years is commonplace. When a district adds a new school, there are several ways to handle the expansion. Whereas details like this are important to the local community, they are not enlighting on the entire history of the school. It seems to me these details, if topically encyclopedic and not just news, would be more pertinent to the school district article. Expanding the school district is much more about the district than any individual school, even a new one. Frequently bonding for new construction is not limited to just building one new school. There are generally at least upgrades, if not expansion or more new construction to other schools. We don't have articles on any but the high schools. John from Idegon (talk) 21:30, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
- I set out to write this article because it was the only red linked high school listed at Pasco County Schools and it seemed intriguing that a new school of considerable size (2,000+ pupils) would be built at the outset as two schools in one, at least temporarily. (Raymie, QPQ added). JGHowes talk 23:12, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
Glad to hear a QPQ's been added. I've found some additional material from when the school was under construction, and I'd prefer if another reviewer took a stab at appraising this ALT4 as I have added about 25% of the article's current prose: Raymie (t • c) 00:21, 13 December 2019 (UTC)- ALT4: ... that separate locker rooms and a divider in the gymnasium help segregate middle school and high school students at Cypress Creek Middle High School in Wesley Chapel, Florida? Source
- I set out to write this article because it was the only red linked high school listed at Pasco County Schools and it seemed intriguing that a new school of considerable size (2,000+ pupils) would be built at the outset as two schools in one, at least temporarily. (Raymie, QPQ added). JGHowes talk 23:12, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
- That's certainly better writing, but aren't we looking for things differentiting? The way this school opened and operated for its first few years is commonplace. When a district adds a new school, there are several ways to handle the expansion. Whereas details like this are important to the local community, they are not enlighting on the entire history of the school. It seems to me these details, if topically encyclopedic and not just news, would be more pertinent to the school district article. Expanding the school district is much more about the district than any individual school, even a new one. Frequently bonding for new construction is not limited to just building one new school. There are generally at least upgrades, if not expansion or more new construction to other schools. We don't have articles on any but the high schools. John from Idegon (talk) 21:30, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
- That is different. Kudos. Alt4 please. John from Idegon (talk) 10:32, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- @John from Idegon: Is that an approval? Raymie (t • c) 17:43, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not passing or not viz. DYK. I have none of the objections stated earlier with alt4. Y'all can go from here.John from Idegon (talk) 18:19, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
