Template:Did you know nominations/Cartucho
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 16:04, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
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Cartucho
[edit]- ... that Nellie Campobello's Cartucho is one of the few literary representations of the Mexican Revolution written by a woman?
- ALT1: ... that Nellie Campobello's Cartucho is the only canonical literary representation of the Mexican Revolution written by a woman?
- Comment: Expansion begun December 20. state of the article on December 20
5x expanded by Jbmurray (talk). Self-nominated at 23:25, 24 December 2015 (UTC).
Long enough; New enough -- DYK expansion 5x started December 21; Neutral; citations are mostly to print sources; I've checked against a number of the sources cited and have not found any copyright violations. I've added a viewable citation to an online google book confirming the DYK fact (as it appears later in the article, not the quotation in the lead). The hook is interesting. It looks like the nominator is new to DYK and a QPQ is not required.
- Caveats:
- 1) Regarding citation, I'm seeing a tendency for quotations to be cited rather than statements. That said, the quoted materials are well-chosen and add greatly to understanding the significance of the work discussed. However, it's important that statements be given sources as well, c.f. the "Title" section, which is not sourced.
- 2) Could someone familiar with image licensing confirm that the image shown on the page is acceptable? I'm not familiar with the license cited, the image shown is the book's cover. I believe that it may be acceptable to use this image for this article on English Wikipedia, with a different rationale -- c.f. the rationale given for The Vor Game and this image Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:10, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for this. I figure the DYK fact is already cited in the lead, with the quotation from Poniatowska. As the McGee source is a phd diss, I got rid of it; I also eliminated the lesson plan that had been added as an eminently unreliable source. Regarding the title, the source for that is the book itself (plus, if you like, any regular Spanish dictionary). I can add a footnote later today. As for the image, I suspect you're right that it should be taken down from Commons, and we should add a (fair-use) copy of the current English translation. I did look for an image of the first edition, but couldn't find one; there are some images of the second (1940) edition floating around, though. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 18:05, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
- I have now added the footnote asked for, regarding the title, plus a bit more information. I have also added a new image, from the 1931 first edition, with a suitable fair-use rationale. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 02:15, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, the new image is much better IMHO, not to mention meeting wikipedia's guidelines :-) I would still like to see the following statement cited: Moreover, due to its distinctive style and first hand validity, as well as the fact that it is the only major portrayal of the Revolution written by a woman, Cartucho has increasingly been recognized as a classic and important literary work from this era. It is presumably the source for the DYK hook fact; the Poniatowska quotation in the lead is subtly different. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 02:09, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hi. I hope I have now addressed this issue to your satisfaction. I have amplified at some length on this most salient point about the book. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 04:09, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
- And I have now added a different hook, should you prefer it. (Me, I still prefer the first, but there we go.) --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 04:11, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Hook now amply cited (it is a requirement for the DYK hook that a citation occur immediately following the information used), and ready to go. I too prefer ALT. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 14:41, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
