Template:Did you know nominations/Boudica
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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 03:34, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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Boudica
- ... that Boudica's actual name is unknown? Source: Davies, John (2008). The Land of Boudica: Prehistoric and Roman Norfolk. Oxford: Oxbow Books. p. 141. ISBN 978-19052-2-333-6
- ALT1: ... that Boudica appeared as 'Voada' in Hector Boece's The History and Chronicles of Scotland (1526)—her first appearance in a British publication? Source: Williams, Carolyn D. (2009). Boudica and Her Stories: Narrative Transformations of a Warrior Queen. Newark, Delaware: University of Delaware Press. pp. 41, 50. ISBN 978-08741-3-079-9.
- ALT2: ... that despite outnumbering a Roman army by an estimated 23 times, Boudica's army was defeated in the battle that led to her death? Potter, T. W. (2004). "Boudicca (d. AD 60/61)". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (online ed.). Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/2732.
- ALT3: ... that the Roman historians Tacitus and Cassius Dio both give an account of battle-speeches given by Boudica, though it is thought that her words were never recorded during her life? Source: Hingley, Richard; Unwin, Christina (2006) [2005]. Boudica: Iron Age Warrior Queen. London: Hambledon Continuum. ISBN 978-0-8264-4060-0. OCLC 741691125.
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Improved to Good Article status by Amitchell125 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:49, 8 November 2022 (UTC).
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- feel like more could be done. - @Onegreatjoke: could you explain what you mean? Amitchell125 (talk) 08:25, 9 November 2022 (UTC) - Interesting:
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@Amitchell125: Great article. However, I feel as if the hooks could be better. I dislike alt1 as I don't find it interesting while alt0 is good. Yet I feel as if you brainstorm more hooks out of this article. Could you create some more hooks? Onegreatjoke (talk) 03:10, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Amitchell125: What I mean is that you could probably come up with more hooks about Boudica. Maybe make a hook about how she led a major rebellion against the romans. Or mention about how she became a major figure during the english renaissance. All these hooks are possible and I'd like to see that. Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:55, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- How about ALT4: ... that despite outnumbering the Roman army an estimated 23 times, Boudica's army was defeated in the battle that led to her death? or something like that? Tim O'Doherty (talk) 17:05, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
I think these are good now so I'll approve. Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:32, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- How about ALT4: ... that despite outnumbering the Roman army an estimated 23 times, Boudica's army was defeated in the battle that led to her death? or something like that? Tim O'Doherty (talk) 17:05, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
@Amitchell125: I like ALT0 as a quirky hook, but I'm not sure it's correct. The source is off-line, so I did a little searching and found https://www.historytoday.com/miscellanies/queen-boudica-life-legend which doesn't say her name is unknown, just that the correct spelling of her name is unclear. But, transliterating names, especially historical names, is always problematical. Unless there's some clear source to support it, I think saying "their actual name is unknown" is stretching things, even for a quirky hook. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:47, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- Where modern historians discuss her name, I have found more than one author who says that Boudica was an honorific title, and we do not know not the personal name she used. (See for instance, Boudica's Odyssey in Early Modern England p. 12 and Boudica Britannia p132. Hope this helps. Amitchell125 (talk) 16:24, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. The Frénée-Hutchins book does indeed seem clear, but the article in its current form doesn't say anything about it (possibly) being an honorific title. Could you add something to the article (I guess in the Name section) which discusses that and cites Frénée-Hutchins? -- RoySmith (talk) 22:53, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Done. Amitchell125 (talk) 15:32, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. The Frénée-Hutchins book does indeed seem clear, but the article in its current form doesn't say anything about it (possibly) being an honorific title. Could you add something to the article (I guess in the Name section) which discusses that and cites Frénée-Hutchins? -- RoySmith (talk) 22:53, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Where modern historians discuss her name, I have found more than one author who says that Boudica was an honorific title, and we do not know not the personal name she used. (See for instance, Boudica's Odyssey in Early Modern England p. 12 and Boudica Britannia p132. Hope this helps. Amitchell125 (talk) 16:24, 12 November 2022 (UTC)