Template:Did you know nominations/Bill Plante
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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 13:59, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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Bill Plante
- ... that Bill Plante was the White House press corps' unofficial sommelier during his three decades as CBS News' senior White House correspondent? Source: The Washington Post; CBS News
- ALT1: ... that before bungee jumping with White House aides in New Zealand, senior White House correspondent Bill Plante said he was "proving that you're never too old to do something really stupid"? Source: The Washington Post
- Reviewed: Justus H. Rathbone
- Comment: Eligible per Rule 1d, because it is only appeared in the "Recent Deaths" section of ITN and not as a bold link.
5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:33, 29 September 2022 (UTC).
- Plante had such a legendary career and one of the best baritone news voices ever. The above may be more catchy, but they overlook what made Plante great. Since most younger readers haven't a clue who Plante was, or what made him worthy of remembrance, I offer the following as an option:
- alt2 Source: here
What? Saying Plante had a booming voice is inaccurate. The CBS article cited says Plante had a baritone voice. Being catchy is not a good idea here.Defcool1 (talk) 00:42, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- What? The article says both baritone and booming. ("He was known for his baritone voice, which he used to launch questions from afar. . . . He'll be remembered for his reports from the White House lawn, his booming voice that presidents always answered and his kind heart.") And since when is "being catchy ... not a good idea"? Cbl62 (talk) 01:17, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Cbl62: just ignore him. He's been trolling this article (and only this article) non-stop for the past 10 days, despite having a grand total of 116 edits to his name. —Bloom6132 (talk) 02:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
Cbl62, here is an answer to your question. One, Lesley Stahl is not an authority on anything. She's well-respected sure. Stahl says he had a booming voice BUT she is referencing presidential press conferences. He did not have a booming voice on newscasts, that is for certain. You are wrong to use this as a description not to mention Bloom is way out of line with many things they do. Two, the number of edits someone or a user makes means nothing. You or Bloom or whoever else go on assuming about that... Three, the Plante article like numerous other GA, FA, and the like articles are edited in not only an incorrect but even juvenile or youthful ways. Four, things you, Cbl62, are assuming are similarly in error. I don't have much hope that you are willing to listen and have zero faith Bloom will. Bloom should focus on the Wiki Bowl and forget the silly stuff.Defcool1 (talk) 08:13, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
Actual review needed (as opposed to the trolling WP:NOTHERE comments above). —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:38, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- newness = recent expansion
- length = just long enough, even when the quotes are subtracted
- content = I note that he was appointed Senior White House Correspondent in 1986 and he retired in 2016. He therefore did not hold that role for 35 years as stated in the article.
- sourced = nice work
- neutral = no concerns
- plagiarismfree = Did you copy from Find a Grave or did Find a Grave from the WP article? As far as I can see, the Find a Grave page was set up on 29 September 2022 (when his death was announced) and at the same time, the article was expanded. My assumption is that the Find a Grave entry as a copy of a particular version of the WP article but would be good to hear from you that that is indeed the case. I'm assuming that smiletimegh.com is a WP mirror. Earwig's first newspaper source (the Washington Post obituary) shows 21% similarity and they are all phrases that are fine.
- policyother = Since a trouble maker was blocked, it's been a stable article.
- hookcited = yes (but ALT2 is factually wrong)
- hookinterest = I find ALT1 most interesting and suggest that bungee jumping be wikilinked. ALT0 would also work but only if sommelier is wikilinked (I suspect it's too much of a specialised term that many people would know what that actually is. With regards to ALT2, he wasn't a "Senior White House Correspondent" for 35 years (I note that the hook talks about "White House Correspondent" but in the article, the title "Senior" is used) but apart from that, it's too convoluted to make a good hook. I've struck it.
- qpq = done
- status =
Needs clarification on plagiarism. Schwede66 04:01, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
