Template:Did you know nominations/Bill Golden
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 05:04, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
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Bill Golden
[edit]- ... that drag racer Bill Golden, nicknamed "Maverick", drove the Little Red Wagon, drag racing's first wheelstander?
- ALT1:... that drag racer Bill Golden, nicknamed "Maverick", gave Chrysler its only AHRA win in 1962?
Created/expanded by Trekphiler (talk). Self-nominated at 07:01, 16 September 2018 (UTC).
@Trekphiler: This article is new enough and long enough. The article is neutral, I have removed the only bit of close paraphrasing I observed and have spent nearly an hour cleaning up the referencing. No QPQ is needed here as the nominator has one previous DYK. Neither hook will do, ALT1 because it mentions Chrysler's "only AHRA win in 1962" while the article mentions "Chrysler's only Nationals win" and the source states "only Chrysler driver to win a class at the Winternationals that year". I prefer the original hook as being more interesting, but the source does not state that the vehicle was "drag racing's first wheelstanding truck". And did the vehicle actually race, or did it become a demonstration vehicle? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:19, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- Little Red Wagon was drag racing's first wheelstanding anything, so the first hook is accurate; the trouble appears to be all the sources presume the readers know this already. If the hook is reworded to remove that specific claim, would that do it? Since it appears I overstated the Nationals claim, I've removed it. And yes, only an exhibition racer, as you'd expect. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 10:50, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- To confirm "first wheelstander", see here. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 15:13, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry I took so long to return to this. ALT0 is now good to go. My only query is, when does the drag-car season end because the source mentions 1965 while the article mentions 1964 - the two are not necessarily inconsistent however. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:23, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- That could be a conflict between sources, with first approach end of '64 & 1st run early '65, & without dates, it's hard to say. Season stat varies by sanctioning body; NHRA's 1st national event is usually Pomona in February, but wheelstanders, as exhibition cars, could be running almost any time tracks were open & they could get somebody to pay 'em to show up. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 23:55, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, that's what I thought. This nomination is good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:26, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- That could be a conflict between sources, with first approach end of '64 & 1st run early '65, & without dates, it's hard to say. Season stat varies by sanctioning body; NHRA's 1st national event is usually Pomona in February, but wheelstanders, as exhibition cars, could be running almost any time tracks were open & they could get somebody to pay 'em to show up. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 23:55, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
