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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 21:25, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

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Bazy Tankersley

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Created by Montanabw (talk). Self nominated at 08:01, 4 May 2013 (UTC).

  • Date, size, QPQ all okay. The article only says that her career spanned for over 70 years and not exactly as 71. —Vensatry (Ping me) 17:46, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Fair enough, I know one source out there said 71 years, but I'm not sure which source is was now, so "over 70" is fine. Will Alt1 work? Montanabw(talk) 17:51, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Ref #2 says that she bred over 2,800 foals while ref #7 says 2,500 foals and 70 years. How about ALT2: ... that Bazy Tankersley bred over 2,500 Arabian horses in a career as a horse breeder that spanned over 70 years? —Vensatry (Ping me) 16:28, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
No, on that one, ref #2 is the more RS; it is from the Arabian Horse Association, which keeps the registry and has access to the database, so if they say "2800" they have access to the exact numbers. Plus ref 7 was from a 2012 interview with a newspaper, where they simply said "over" 2500, but not how far over...and the 2012 foal crop may not have been completely registered by that time, either (so numbers from 2012 less accurate than 2013 data)  ;-) So on that one I'd prefer to stick to the 2800 number. However, if it's a real headache, we can discuss further. Montanabw(talk) 15:26, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
  • The problem is ref #2 does not mention anything about how many years she looked after those foals. Correct me if I'm missing something. —Vensatry (Ping me) 16:53, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
    "Breeder" is a legal status, generally the owner of the mama mare at the time of foaling. It's what shows up on the foal's registration papers. So it doesn't matter who "looked after" the foals (At her place the "looked after" people probably were multiple employees anyway, when you have dozens of foals arriving every year...) it's how many times her name pops up in the database as the "breeder" of a foal, and foals generally are registered some time in their first year, though when varies -- the registry offers big discounts on registration fees if they do it before a foal is six months old, but that's probably because most people drag their feet at least that long... ;-) Oh, and, the Ahneman-Rudsenske source on page 62 also verifies the 2800 foals number. That article at the top of page 64 also implies, though doesn't quite say so directly, that she first started "breeding" horses in 1941. Montanabw(talk) 22:49, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
  • That being the case, cite those sources for the hook. No point in relying on #2 and #7 alone. —Vensatry (Ping me) 17:10, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
  • I"m not clear what you mean, the sources for the hook are cited, I changed one to be 70 rather than 71 to align with the particular source, so do you want me to add TWO sources for both points? I can do that, but it's overkill. Montanabw(talk) 16:46, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
  • The hook must be exactly verifiable by the sources. I'm passing it now. —Vensatry (Ping me) 17:27, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
  • OK, but Alt1 and the 2800 figure, correct? Montanabw(talk) 18:40, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
* Alt1: Good to go —Vensatry (Ping me) 05:41, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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