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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 17:05, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

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Battle of Winwick

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  • ... that in 1648 a mostly Scottish army was pursued for two nights and two days by an English army before turning to fight at the battle of Winwick? Source: Royle, Trevor (2005) [2004]. Civil War: The Wars of the Three Kingdoms, 1638–1660. London: Abacus. ISBN 978-0-349-11564-1, pp. 469; Bull, Stephen; Seed, Mike (1998). Bloody Preston: The Battle of Preston, 1648. Lancaster: Carnegie. ISBN 978-1-85936-041-5, pp. 76-79.

Created by Gog the Mild (talk). Self-nominated at 14:28, 21 January 2023 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Gog the Mild: Good article. Agf on sources I can't access. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:39, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

@Gog the Mild and Onegreatjoke: I really want to promote this hook, but I'm not easily finding the fact cited in ALT0 within the article. I gather I'm supposed to be able to deduce it by reading all the way through, but at DYK these days we are quite literal and want to be able to easily find the corresponding fact stated, with citations, within the article text. Would you be able to address? Cielquiparle (talk) 13:40, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Cielquiparle, it's not really there like that. I mean, it's summary style, but that summary would reduce the whole article to about 4 sentences. :) The best I have is:

On the evening of 18 August at least a substantial part of the Scottish infantry formed up on Standish Moor north of Wigan, briefly holding off their pursuers. Cromwell reported a hundred prisoners taken outside Wigan. The Scots entered the town, thoroughly plundered it and marched on through the night. Some men had not eaten nor slept for two nights, cavalrymen fell asleep in their saddles. Hungry, cold, soaking wet, exhausted and short of dry powder or matchlock the Scots continued south ... At some time during the morning of 19 August, about 9 miles (14 km) south of Wigan, the Scots halted between the villages of Newton and Winwick. They had found a naturally strong defensive position where the road crossed Newton Brook, and they could take defensive advantage of ...

Cited to the hilt - this is going to be my 58th FAC nom once the current stuttering GAN is over. But I won't invest 30 minutes inserting them all if you're not happy with this as the "corresponding fact". Gog the Mild (talk) 14:52, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
  • Hi Onegreatjoke, ALT0 doesn't seem to be going anywhere, so how would you feel about:
ALT1: ... that after the battle of Winwick in 1648 some Scottish prisoners were sold as slaves? Source: Bull, Stephen; Seed, Mike (1998). Bloody Preston: The Battle of Preston, 1648. Lancaster: Carnegie. ISBN 978-1-85936-041-5 page 101. Or, more accessibly, here.
Gog the Mild (talk) 21:10, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke: Check it! ALT1 is hooky and cited correctly in the article, yes? (Waiting for another green tick from you.) Cielquiparle (talk) 14:51, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Approve. Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
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