Template:Did you know nominations/Battle for Castle Itter

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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:41, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Battle for Castle Itter

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... that the "strangest" battle of World War II, fought at Itter Castle (pictured) five days after the death of Adolf Hitler, was the only battle in the war where American and German soldiers fought on the same side?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Karl-Heinz Stroux

Created by Typing General (talk). Self nominated at 02:46, 11 July 2013 (UTC).

Everything seems to check out fine and it's an interesting story. Well done. Andrew Davidson (talk) 12:45, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

The hook, unfortunately, is too long at 212 characters (201 excluding "pictured"). Can a shorter hook be proposed? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:30, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

(ALT1) why not just ... that the Battle for Castle Itter, fought at Itter Castle (pictured) five days after the death of Adolf Hitler, was the only battle in the war where American and German soldiers fought on the same side? --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:42, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

because "Castle Itter" and "Itter Castle" are redundant when seen in the same hook? BlueMoonset (talk) 21:48, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

(ALT2) ... that the Battle for Castle Itter, fought at the eponymous castle (pictured) five days after the death of Adolf Hitler, was the only World War II battle where American and German soldiers were allied?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:52, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

I think this is more direct; possible changes include "in which" replacing "where", and/or adding "which occurred" before "five days":

ALT3: ... that the Battle for Castle Itter (castle pictured), five days after the death of Adolf Hitler, was the only World War II battle where American and German soldiers fought as allies?

ALT3 is currently 180 characters including "(castle pictured)". —BlueMoonset (talk) 22:28, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

I would rather remove the part about Hitler's death. Would this work? It's 183 characters, including the (castle pictured):

ALT 4: ... that the "strangest" battle of World War II was fought at a medieval castle (castle pictured) and was the only World War II battle where American and German soldiers fought as allies? --Typing General (talk) 05:21, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't think the repetition of "castle in "medieval castle (castle pictured)" or the two iterations of "World War II" work well, and still prefer "in which" to "where". How about ALT4a, which is only 177 characters:

ALT4a: ... that the "strangest" battle of World War II was fought at a medieval castle (pictured) and was the only battle of the war in which American and German soldiers fought as allies?

Let me know what you think. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:49, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

I love it. Let's go with that.--Typing General (talk) 06:13, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Since I suggested ALT4a I can't also review it. Reviewer needed to review that hook, and should probably check other DYK requirements since the original review is very non-specific about what was checked. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:17, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

ALT4a --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 10:45, 22 July 2013 (UTC)