Template:Did you know nominations/Albert Sidney Johnston (Ney)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:49, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
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Albert Sidney Johnston (Ney)
[edit]... that Albert Sidney Johnston went to Albert Sidney Johnston's grave by way of the St. Louis World's Fair?Source: "...the finished marble carving was shipped in 1904 from Seravezza, Italy to Saint Louis, where it won a bronze medal at the Saint Louis World's Fair." (Little, Carol Morris (1996). A Comprehensive Guide to Outdoor Sculpture in Texas. University of Texas Press. p. 74. ISBN 9780292760363.)- ALT1:
... that, when designing Albert Sidney Johnston's grave memorial, Elisabet Ney refused to include elements that could not plausibly have been present at the Battle of Shiloh?Source: "Without a touch of sarcasm, Ney commented that she was trying to make her sculpture as realistic as possible and that she found it very unlikely that one of Johnston's lieutenants would have placed a Constitution in his hand at the moment of his death on the Shiloh battlefield." (Martinello, Marian L.; Cutrer, Emily; Lowman, Al (1983). Elisabet Ney: Artist, Woman, Texan. University of Texas Institute of Texan Cultures at San Antonio. p. 29.)
- Reviewed: Myron Prinzmetal
Created by Bryanrutherford0 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:30, 7 October 2017 (UTC).
The article is new, long enough, well referenced, neutral, and I couldn't see any close paraphrasing. I think the hook is brilliant (and would work very nicely in the "quirky" spot of the set) and it is supported by inline citations. QPQ is done. 97198 (talk) 05:08, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
There are a lot of unreferenced paragraphs in the Albert Sidney Johnston article, so we would normally not link it on the main page. I added an "unreferenced section" tag to one section, and then realized that a lot more is unreferenced, including this information about his statue. Perhaps you could add some of your references in the Albert Sidney Johnston (Ney) to the Albert Sidney Johnston article to bring it up to speed? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:28, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, I didn't think to check that! I've added a couple of my sources to support the claims about his grave monument in his biographical article, but I don't have the books that most of the citations seem to be drawn from in that article, so it would be tough for me to try to fill in the (many) missing citations. Hrm... If that article isn't sufficiently well supported to be linked from the front page, could we un-link his name in the hook? That makes the joke a little tougher to parse, though; I can try to come up with a different hook if this policy kills my first proposal.-Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 19:12, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Bryanrutherford0: I think you should come up with a different hook. Most of the uncited paragraphs in the biography article have to do with army history, which would take an expert (or someone with a bunch of books) to fill in. Not linking it, when it has a Wikipedia page, wouldn't make sense. Sorry. Yoninah (talk) 00:39, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- So, in effect, the hook can't mention the piece's subject? Hrm... How about the above proposal?-Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:39, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Bryanrutherford0: ALT1 sounds more factual than hooky. What do you think about:
- ALT2: ... that Albert Sidney Johnston lies in repose
overatop his grave? Yoninah (talk) 20:51, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me! Maybe another preposition in place of "over," like "atop" or "above" might emphasize the joke a little more? I like it!-Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 00:15, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
