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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by sst✈discuss 10:54, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

25 (Adele album)

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  • ... that Adele had intended for 25 to be about motherhood, but scrapped the idea because she thought it would be too boring?

Created by Unreal7 (talk), PokerFace3 (talk), and Moonsprite (talk). Nominated by Calvin999 (talk) at 11:10, 25 October 2015 (UTC).

  • The article looks great at first sight and meets the criteria regarding freshness and size. However, when I went in to check for paraphrasing by reading through random articles used as sources, I noticed that some of the references do not cover all the information that precedes them. In other words, there is a slight verifiability issue. For example, citation 1 does not say anything about going "out on a high", which appears to be a quote and must be properly sourced. Further down, I am not sure citation 21 credits her motherhood with inspiration. Citation 25 does not mention Jesso at all, though it is supposed to verify the claim that Jesso wrote a song with Adele and Sia Furler. Though I can verify the hook, these inconsistencies should probably be fixed. Surtsicna (talk) 11:55, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
  • It has been over three weeks, and not only is there no response, but the QPQ has still not been supplied. Action is needed here. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:54, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
I placed another request for comment on the nominator's user page. If we hear nothing back over the next couple days, I suggest this nomination be declined.4meter4 (talk) 01:56, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
QPQ has now been done by the nominator. I should point out that the nominator is not the author of this article and may not have been aware of the sourcing issues. I don't think this hook can be promoted until the article is checked for factual accuracy that is properly supported. I am placing another note on the nominator's page. Best.4meter4 (talk) 01:59, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

I would like to suggest an alternative if the current hook is not acceptable. -- Frankie talk 10:15, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

  • ALT1 ... that in the United States, Columbia Records shipped 3.6 million physical copies of Adele's 25 to stores?
    • okay.  — Calvin999 12:37, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
      • I personally would include something about the records it broke. Snuggums (talk / edits) 07:01, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
        • I'm in favour of changing to how many records it sold first week.  — Calvin999 11:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
I believe Adele is no new to breaking records. However, shipping more than million physical copies of an album in the era of streaming and downloads is very rare. -- Frankie talk 16:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

for ALT1 or original hook. Rcsprinter123 (soliloquise) 10:18, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

  • The article as originally reviewed by Surtsicna was 11143 prose characters; the current article has expanded to 30653, but unfortunately has acquired some problematic sections that need to fixed before this can be promoted to prep. There are some instances of close paraphrasing that need to be dealt with. These include "Adele yearning for her old self, her nostalgia, and melancholy about the passage of time" from the article's lede, which is an uncredited conflation of "Her yearning for her old self, her nostalgia," and "melancholia about the passage of time" from succeeding paragraphs in the Rolling Stone source, and last several sentences of the Legacy section are nearly identical to numbers 2, 3, 6, and 8 from the Yahoo Music source, with a few details omitted. And there's a large quote from the Daily Star review that combines separated paragraphs and drops words to make a single unbroken quote, which is not an allowable change. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:40, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
    • Sorry I haven't got time to do a copyedit of the article. I'm going on holiday today and I haven't really been online much. If it means that this nomination is reflected then so be it.  — Calvin999 12:25, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
  • Snuggums, Frankie, would either of you like to try to address the issues found in the article? It seems a shame that this article not run at DYK, though I imagine it will eventually be turned into a Good Article and be eligible again then. Please respond here if you do. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:49, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm going to decline due to an FLC that the two of us have running, and wouldn't be surprised if FrB.TG says the same. Need to focus my attention there for now when able to access Wikipedia. Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:12, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
  • With regret, I'm going to mark this for closure, though if someone wants to intervene before it's closed to address the issues noted above, the nomination can remain open. The article can always be nominated to become a Good Article, and if it succeeds, it will be eligible again at that time. Best of luck. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:30, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
  • I may be able to perform fixes to address issues noted. sst✈discuss 10:29, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
  • I found more problems than the ones noted above, so I am going to have to reject this. sst✈discuss 10:54, 26 December 2015 (UTC)