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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 08:19, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

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1993 Football League Second Division play-off Final

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The Twin Towers of Wembley Stadium
The Twin Towers of Wembley Stadium
  • ... that Peter Swan became only the third Englishman to be sent off at Wembley Stadium when he was dismissed in the 1993 Second Division play-off final? Source: Swan, Peter; Collomosse, Andrew (2008). Swanny: Confessions of a Lower-League Legend. John Blake. ISBN 978-1-84454-660-2. Also repeated here: "My lowest point came in the Division Two Play-Off Final, when I became only the third Englishman to be sent off at Wembley Stadium; to this day it is one of the biggest regrets of my career."

Improved to Good Article status by EchetusXe (talk). Self-nominated at 14:53, 26 May 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: —valereee (talk) 00:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

EchetusXe, everything looks good except the hook interest, which I'm willing to AGF on, but can you explain why this is actually interesting? Is it unexpected that by 1993 only three Englishmen had been sent off at Wembley? Would we have expected many more to have been sent off? Are non-English more likely to have been? Could we maybe do an ALT around his being sent off being the turning point in the game? Also, are we concerned about a hook around this being too negative/BLP for the front page? Ping me when you respond or I might miss it! Quite busy IRL right now and I've completely lost control of my watchlist. —valereee (talk) 12:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Valereee Yes it's unexpected because it is/was the national stadium of the England team, also with significant domestic games played there. I think it would be unexpected for someone with an interest in the game. Looking at it deeper, the explanation would be that in the past it was extremely rare for a player to be sent off in a match, whereas now it's not an unusual event. This website lists red cards for England players, it shows 4 red cards (all in away matches) in England's first 615 games and 13 red cards in England most recent 256 games. As for it being negative, in the past (say 1950s) it would be a source of shame to be sent off, but nowadays it's accepted as a hazard of the job, so to speak. He seems to boasts about it in his autobiography. I hope that provides some insight, but the hook can still be changed if you think it should be.EchetusXe 13:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm fine with both explanations! :) Just doing my due diligence. Good to go! —valereee (talk) 13:47, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
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