Talk:Zrinski family
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2006
[edit]Why is Petar Zrinski redirected to Zrinski? He should have his own page.
Politepunk 11:55, 4 March 2006 (UTC) Would it be sensible to incorporate some of the later paragraph about the influence of the family (starting "Already at the end of the twelfth century the Šubić family...") in the earlier text? If not, I'd be happy to edit it a little to improve the style/readability.
Miklos Zrinyi Pirate Page
[edit]Some time ago, a consensus was reached across several articles over the naming conventions of the various Zrinskis/Zrinyis: The elder warrior would go by Croatian name: Nikola Šubić Zrinski; the younger warrior/statesman/poet would go by his Hungarian name, Miklós Zrínyi; and the rest would remain Croatian. Miklos Zrinyi's renaming was not a recognition that he was ethnically Hungarian, which he wasn't, but that he associated himself most with Hungarian culture and causes. Indeed, he is considered one of the greatest Hungarian literary masters, due to his Siege of Sziget.
Whether or not one agrees with this consensus, it is the status quo. It can be challenged, but the proper way to go about that is not to set up a rival page, Nikola VII Zrinski. This is just another Miklós Zrínyi page, but grammatically lacking and written with a Croatian POV.
We have struggled for a long time to maintain a balance between the Hungarian and Croatian nationalists, and one of the strengths of the earlier consensus is that the majority of the individuals in question are under their Croatian names, and one most important to Hungarians is under his Hungarian name. That is not the reason why this naming convention was used, but it is a bonus.
I'd ask that this pirate article not be linked to -- it is a dodge to get around actually hashing out consensual edits on the currently accepted, real page. Korossyl (talk) 16:22, 10 December 2009 (UTC)